I'd also like to see width specifiers in printf/sprintf, a la C. That would let printf do "%02d", i.e. zero-pad an integer until it fills two characters. I know it's not critical, but I'd like to see a more complete interface for these functions.
Cheers, Andrew Pennebaker www.yellosoft.us On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 1:56 PM, David Mitchell <[email protected]>wrote: > You would have to put printf.ijs there yourself. As you found, it is not > installed there in J7. > > I would suggest temporarily copying it yourself from the J6 directory to a > J7 > directory, perhaps your J7 user directory. > > As I recall the beta test and release schedule of J7, the reasons for the > release of a 'unfinished' J7 were several: > > 1) The support philosophy of J7 was radically different than prior J > versions, > in my opinion. J7 is now essentially open source and depends on user > contributions for future enhancements and even conversions of some of the > previously 'standard' scripts. > > 2) The file structure of J7 was significantly different than J6. As far > as I > can see, the goal was to simplify the 'core' J as much as possible and > move as > many 'non-core' scripts as possible to the addons directories. > > 3) The elimination of the long time favorite 'wd' interface in J7 meant > that > many support scripts would have to be radically rewritten to work with J7. > While printf does not use 'wd', printf may have gotten caught up in the > general > direction of J7 and left as an exercise for the user. > > See more discussion about this topic in the historical logs of the Beta > Forum. > > Cheers, > -- > David Mitchell > > > On 11/1/2011 13:23, Andrew Pennebaker wrote: > > I ls'd the j64-701/system/main/ directory and found no printf.ijs file. > > > > Why would JSoftware release a new v7 version of J without first upgrading > > the addons from v6? > > > > Cheers, > > > > Andrew Pennebaker > > www.yellosoft.us > > > > On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 6:54 AM, David Mitchell<[email protected] > >wrote: > > > >> Andrew, > >> > >> I don't have access to J on a Mac, so I cannot guarantee that the > process > >> that > >> worked for me will work for you. But, I suspect that it will. > >> > >> What I recommend is that you install both J6.02 and J7.01 on your Mac. > >> There > >> are elements of J6.02 that are not currently included in J7.01. > >> > >> Some of the elements that are not included in J7.01 from J6.02 are > mostly > >> or > >> wholly compatible with J7.01, but these elements have currently not been > >> migrated to J7.01. > >> > >> The printf script is one of those J6.02 elements that does not appear to > >> have > >> been migrated to J7.01. > >> > >> I have both J6.02 and J7.01 installed on Windows 7_64. After I saw your > >> question > >> concerning printf, I looked in J6.02 using "Find in Files" and found > that > >> the > >> printf verbs were defined in j602/system/main/printf.ijs. > >> > >> I looked at the definitions of the printf verbs to see if I could see > any > >> reason > >> why they would not work on J7.01 or on a Mac. I did not see any obvious > >> reason > >> that they were likely to fail on J7.01 or a Mac. I also noticed that > the > >> printf.ijs script had a built-in test that validated many of the verbs > and > >> formats supported by printf.ijs. I ran the test on J7.01 and the test > >> reported > >> that all of the tests ran fine. > >> > >> Based on that result and my own casual testing of printf verbs, I > believe > >> that, > >> if you install J6.02, you will likely be able to load printf.ijs from > J6.02 > >> while running J7.01 on your Mac and that will define the printf verbs > and > >> provide you the printf functionality. > >> > >> At some point, some one may decide that the J6.02 printf.ijs script > should > >> be > >> included in J7.01. Because of the decision to move many of the J6.02 > >> included > >> .ijs scripts from the main J system directories to the addons > directories, > >> it > >> will probably wind up in addons/format or addons/general/misc directory. > >> > >> I must admit I had not bumped into Mitchell and Webb before. One of > these > >> days, > >> I should start a web site (if it doesn't already exist) where all of us > >> David > >> Mitchell's could gather. Until the advent of the web, I had thought > that > >> I had > >> a reasonably unique name. Since the web, I have discovered that there > are > >> hundreds, if not thousands of David Mitchell's just in NY State. > >> > >> All the best, > >> -- > >> David Mitchell > >> > >> > >> On 10/31/2011 14:02, Andrew Pennebaker wrote: > >>> David: Are you saying that J701 x64 for Mac currently supports printf > by > >>> default, or that printf must be compiled, or something else? > >>> > >>> What's your opinion of Mitchell and Webb? > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> > >>> Andrew Pennebaker > >>> www.yellosoft.us > >>> > >>> On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 7:02 AM, David Mitchell<[email protected] > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> The J6 version of printf (system/main/printf.ijs) seems to work fine > >> with > >>>> J7. > >>>> > >>>> I enabled the built-in test cases and ran the printf tests on J7_64 > and > >>>> there > >>>> were no errors reported. > >>>> > >>>> NB. modify script to run tests. > >>>> NB. Test lines (change ^:0 to ^:1 to run test) > >>>> load 'c:/users/me/j602/system/main/printf.ijs' > >>>> Error count: 0 > >>>> > >>>> All the best, > >>>> -- > >>>> David Mitchell > >>>> > >>>> On 10/31/2011 1:32, Andrew Pennebaker wrote: > >>>>> $ jconsole > >>>>> load 'printf' > >>>>> not found: /Users/andrew/Desktop/printf > >>>>> |file name error: script > >>>>> | 0!:0 y[4!:55<'y' > >>>>> > >>>>> Specs: > >>>>> > >>>>> - J701 x64 > >>>>> - Mac OS X Lion 10.7.2 > >>>>> > >>>>> Cheers, > >>>>> > >>>>> Andrew Pennebaker > >>>>> www.yellosoft.us > >>>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> For information about J forums see > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >>>>> > >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> For information about J forums see > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >>>> > >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >>> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
