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Henry Rich

On 11/1/2011 9:51 PM, Ric Sherlock wrote:
> I would've turned to:
>     'r<0>2.0' (8!:0) 5
> ┌──┐
> │05│
> └──┘
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Raul Miller<[email protected]>  wrote:
>> Personally, I'd probably use }.":100+5 for that
>>
>> --
>> Raul
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 7:34 PM, Andrew Pennebaker
>> <[email protected]>  wrote:
>>> I'd like to make a distinction between width and precision. From what I
>>> gather in the interpreter, %2.2d prints "5.00", but what I want is "05".
>>> That's what happens with fmt, anyway.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Andrew Pennebaker
>>> www.yellosoft.us
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Henry Rich<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'll try to fix that long-standing deficiency when I port to 7.01.  In
>>>> the meantime, use %2.2d (it does support width, just not the 0 flag).
>>>>
>>>> Henry Rich
>>>>
>>>> On 11/1/2011 5:20 PM, Andrew Pennebaker wrote:
>>>>> I'd also like to see width specifiers in printf/sprintf, a la C. That
>>>> would
>>>>> let printf do "%02d", i.e. zero-pad an integer until it fills two
>>>>> characters. I know it's not critical, but I'd like to see a more complete
>>>>> interface for these functions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Andrew Pennebaker
>>>>> www.yellosoft.us
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 1:56 PM, David Mitchell<[email protected]
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> You would have to put printf.ijs there yourself.  As you found, it is
>>>> not
>>>>>> installed there in J7.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would suggest temporarily copying it yourself from the J6 directory
>>>> to a
>>>>>> J7
>>>>>> directory, perhaps your J7 user directory.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As I recall the beta test and release schedule of J7, the reasons for
>>>> the
>>>>>> release of a 'unfinished' J7 were several:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) The support philosophy of J7 was radically different than prior J
>>>>>> versions,
>>>>>> in my opinion.  J7 is now essentially open source and depends on user
>>>>>> contributions for future enhancements and even conversions of some of
>>>> the
>>>>>> previously 'standard' scripts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) The file structure of J7 was significantly different than J6.  As far
>>>>>> as I
>>>>>> can see, the goal was to simplify the 'core' J as much as possible and
>>>>>> move as
>>>>>> many 'non-core' scripts as possible to the addons directories.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3) The elimination of the long time favorite 'wd' interface in J7 meant
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> many support scripts would have to be radically rewritten to work with
>>>> J7.
>>>>>> While printf does not use 'wd', printf may have gotten caught up in the
>>>>>> general
>>>>>> direction of J7 and left as an exercise for the user.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See more discussion about this topic in the historical logs of the Beta
>>>>>> Forum.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> David Mitchell
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/1/2011 13:23, Andrew Pennebaker wrote:
>>>>>>> I ls'd the j64-701/system/main/ directory and found no printf.ijs file.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why would JSoftware release a new v7 version of J without first
>>>> upgrading
>>>>>>> the addons from v6?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Andrew Pennebaker
>>>>>>> www.yellosoft.us
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 6:54 AM, David Mitchell<[email protected]
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Andrew,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't have access to J on a Mac, so I cannot guarantee that the
>>>>>> process
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> worked for me will work for you.  But, I suspect that it will.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What I recommend is that you install both J6.02 and J7.01 on your Mac.
>>>>>>>>     There
>>>>>>>> are elements of J6.02 that are not currently included in J7.01.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Some of the elements that are not included in J7.01 from J6.02 are
>>>>>> mostly
>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>> wholly compatible with J7.01, but these elements have currently not
>>>> been
>>>>>>>> migrated to J7.01.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The printf script is one of those J6.02 elements that does not appear
>>>> to
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> been migrated to J7.01.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have both J6.02 and J7.01 installed on Windows 7_64. After I saw
>>>> your
>>>>>>>> question
>>>>>>>> concerning printf, I looked in J6.02 using "Find in Files" and found
>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> printf verbs were defined in j602/system/main/printf.ijs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I looked at the definitions of the printf verbs to see if I could see
>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>> reason
>>>>>>>> why they would not work on J7.01 or on a Mac.  I did not see any
>>>> obvious
>>>>>>>> reason
>>>>>>>> that they were likely to fail on J7.01 or a Mac.  I also noticed that
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> printf.ijs script had a built-in test that validated many of the verbs
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> formats supported by printf.ijs.  I ran the test on J7.01 and the test
>>>>>>>> reported
>>>>>>>> that all of the tests ran fine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Based on that result and my own casual testing of printf verbs, I
>>>>>> believe
>>>>>>>> that,
>>>>>>>> if you install J6.02, you will likely be able to load printf.ijs from
>>>>>> J6.02
>>>>>>>> while running J7.01 on your Mac and that will define the printf verbs
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> provide you the printf functionality.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At some point, some one may decide that the J6.02 printf.ijs script
>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> included in J7.01.  Because of the decision to move many of the J6.02
>>>>>>>> included
>>>>>>>> .ijs scripts from the main J system directories to the addons
>>>>>> directories,
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> will probably wind up in addons/format or addons/general/misc
>>>> directory.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I must admit I had not bumped into Mitchell and Webb before.  One of
>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>> days,
>>>>>>>> I should start a web site (if it doesn't already exist) where all of
>>>> us
>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>> Mitchell's could gather.  Until the advent of the web, I had thought
>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> I had
>>>>>>>> a reasonably unique name.  Since the web, I have discovered that there
>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> hundreds, if not thousands of David Mitchell's just in NY State.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> David Mitchell
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/31/2011 14:02, Andrew Pennebaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>> David: Are you saying that J701 x64 for Mac currently supports printf
>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>> default, or that printf must be compiled, or something else?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What's your opinion of Mitchell and Webb?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Andrew Pennebaker
>>>>>>>>> www.yellosoft.us
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 7:02 AM, David Mitchell<
>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The J6 version of printf (system/main/printf.ijs) seems to work fine
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> J7.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I enabled the built-in test cases and ran the printf tests on J7_64
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>> were no errors reported.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> NB. modify script to run tests.
>>>>>>>>>> NB. Test lines (change ^:0 to ^:1 to run test)
>>>>>>>>>>       load 'c:/users/me/j602/system/main/printf.ijs'
>>>>>>>>>> Error count: 0
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> David Mitchell
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 10/31/2011 1:32, Andrew Pennebaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> $ jconsole
>>>>>>>>>>>         load 'printf'
>>>>>>>>>>> not found: /Users/andrew/Desktop/printf
>>>>>>>>>>> |file name error: script
>>>>>>>>>>> |       0!:0 y[4!:55<'y'
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Specs:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         - J701 x64
>>>>>>>>>>>         - Mac OS X Lion 10.7.2
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew Pennebaker
>>>>>>>>>>> www.yellosoft.us
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