pertama jadi lu mengimani hadis ya, kita catet itu. kedua, lu ngerti bahasa inggris ngga sih?
--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@...> wrote: > > Bukhari Volume 5, Book 59, Number 459: > Narrated Ibn Muhairiz: > >I entered the Mosque and saw Abu Said Al-Khudri and sat beside him and asked > >him about Al-Azl (i.e. coitus interruptus). Abu Said said, "We went out > >with Allah's Apostle for the Ghazwa of Banu Al-Mustaliq and we received > >captives from among the Arab captives and we desired women and celibacy > >became hard on us and we loved to do coitus interruptus. So when we > >intended to do coitus interrupt us, we said, 'How can we do coitus > >interruptus before asking Allah's Apostle who is present among us?" We > >asked (him) about it and he said, 'It is better for you not to do so, for if > >any soul (till the Day of Resurrection) is predestined to exist, it will > >exist." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > From: johny_indon <johny_indon@...> > >To: [email protected] > >Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 9:11 AM > >Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi > > > > > > > > > > > >gua menentang pembantaian dan pemerkosaan yg dilakukan oleh siapapun. > >sekarang coba lu bawa bukti yg elu percayai sebagai kebenaran bahwa nabi > >melakukan pembantaian dan peerkosaan. > >gua udah pernah nanya ini tapi elu ngacir ngga sanggup jawab. > > > >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > >> > >> Apa lu pernah kaing2 ttg pembantaian dan pemerkosaan yg dilakukan pejihad2 > >> Islam termasuk oleh nabi lu? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >________________________________ > >> > From: johny_indon <johny_indon@> > >> >To: [email protected] > >> >Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 8:31 AM > >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi > >> > > >> > > >> >à> >> > > >> > > >> >terbukti sudah dgn gamblang. > >> >ternyata yg dimaksud si jusplik dgn orang "mulia" dan "anti kekerasan" > >> >itu adalah > >> >bajingan yg menganggap lumrah pemerkosaan dan pembantaian tentara serbia > >> >terhadap muslim bosnia. > >> >si bajingan itu juga menikmati lolongan cewek yg lagi disiksa. > >> >luar biasa! > >> > > >> >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Ga perlu gua ngomong semua pendapat gua, goblok. Terserah aja lu mau > >> >> mlintir2 kayak apa, toh emang cuma itu kemampuan lu. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >________________________________ > >> >> > From: johny_indon <johny_indon@> > >> >> >To: [email protected] > >> >> >Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 12:03 PM > >> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >Ãâà> >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >dan elu, yg kata si jusplik menolak kekerasan, tidak pernah keberatan > >> >> >dgn pembantaian dan pemerkosaan muslim bosnia oleh kresten serbia yg > >> >> >terjadi > >> >> >di abad 20 ini. > >> >> >dasar elu kresten biadab. > >> >> > > >> >> >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Orang Serbia udah ditindas selama berabad2 oleh orang Islam di jaman > >> >> >> Ottoman, goblok. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >________________________________ > >> >> >> > From: johny_indon <johny_indon@> > >> >> >> >To: [email protected] > >> >> >> >Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 1:49 PM > >> >> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >pembelaan yg sangat tolol. > >> >> >> >orang kresten yg cerdas pasti malu baca argumen sampah elu itu. > >> >> >> >karena elu bahkan ngga berani mengutuk apa yg dilakukan kresten > >> >> >> >serbia, malah bikin pembelaan ngawur "Orang Serbia itu udah sekian > >> >> >> >lama ditindas oleh orang Islam, jadi ga aneh kalo mereka ngebalas > >> >> >> >apa yg sdh dilakukan orang Islam thd mereka". > >> >> >> >padahal di link yg gua kasih udah lengkap kronologis pembantaian > >> >> >> >muslim bosnia oleh kresten serbia itu, tapi lu menolak fakta di > >> >> >> >depan mata dengan argumen ngawur asal2an ala musmus. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >malu ya ternyata orang2 yg seiman dengan elu ternyata buas2? > >> >> >> >dan ini terjadi di abad 20 di mana sebagian besar umat manusia > >> >> >> >sudah semakin beradab. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >kalau elu berdalih "yg nyetop pembantaian itu jg bukan orang Islam, > >> >> >> >tp orang "Kristen" ", lha yg nangkepin dan nembak mati teroris > >> >> >> >di indonesia juga orang islam. polisi, intel, kapolri, semua orang > >> >> >> >islam, bukan orang kresten, goblog. > >> >> >> >mau ngomong apa lagi lu sekarang? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >mana si jusplik mahaguru elu yg ngaku2 humanis itu? mingkem sejuta > >> >> >> >basa dia. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Hehehe... orang Islam terus aja ga mau ngaku pembantaian yg > >> >> >> >> dilakukan demi auloh. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Orang Serbia melakukan pembantaian itu ga ada hubungan dgn ajaran > >> >> >> >> Kristen, dan yg nyetop pembantaian itu jg bukan orang Islam, tp > >> >> >> >> orang "Kristen". > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Sebaliknya, banyak pembantaian yg dilakukan dlm rangka berjihad > >> >> >> >> di jalan auloh. Apa orang Islam mau ngibul bhw pejihad2 yg > >> >> >> >> ngebantai non Islam itu bukan melakukannya demi auloh dan ga > >> >> >> >> sesuai dgn ajaran Islam? > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Orang Serbia itu udah sekian lama ditindas oleh orang Islam, jadi > >> >> >> >> ga aneh kalo mereka ngebalas apa yg sdh dilakukan orang Islam thd > >> >> >> >> mereka. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >________________________________ > >> >> >> >> > From: johny_indon <johny_indon@> > >> >> >> >> >To: [email protected] > >> >> >> >> >Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 10:41 AM > >> >> >> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >ÃÆ'Ã'âââ¬à ¡ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >pembantaian yg lu maksud yg ini bukan? > >> >> >> >> >(pengen tau juga komentar mahaguru elu si jusplik). > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >**** In addition, the Serbs continued to engage in mass rapes of > >> >> >> >> >Muslim females. ***** > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >http://www.historyplace.com/worldhistory/genocide/bosnia.htm > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Yugoslavia was composed of ethnic and religious groups that had > >> >> >> >> >been historical rivals, even bitter enemies, including the Serbs > >> >> >> >> >(Orthodox Christians), Croats (Catholics) and ethnic Albanians > >> >> >> >> >(Muslims). > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >*** > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Sarajevo soon became known as the city where Serb snipers > >> >> >> >> >continually shot down helpless civilians in the streets, > >> >> >> >> >including eventually over 3,500 children. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >*** > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Bosnian Muslims were hopelessly outgunned. As the Serbs gained > >> >> >> >> >ground, they began to systematically roundup local Muslims in > >> >> >> >> >scenes eerily similar to those that had occurred under the Nazis > >> >> >> >> >during World War II, including mass shootings, forced > >> >> >> >> >repopulation of entire towns, and confinement in make-shift > >> >> >> >> >concentration camps for men and boys. The Serbs also terrorized > >> >> >> >> >Muslim families into fleeing their villages by using rape as a > >> >> >> >> >weapon against women and girls. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >The actions of the Serbs were labeled as 'ethnic cleansing,' a > >> >> >> >> >name which quickly took hold among the international media. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >*** > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Throughout 1993, confident that the U.N., United States and the > >> >> >> >> >European Community would not take militarily action, Serbs in > >> >> >> >> >Bosnia freely committed genocide against Muslims. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >*** > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >At this point, some of the worst genocidal activities of the > >> >> >> >> >four-year-old conflict occurred. In Srebrenica, a Safe Haven, > >> >> >> >> >U.N. peacekeepers stood by helplessly as the Serbs under the > >> >> >> >> >command of General Ratko Mladic systematically selected and then > >> >> >> >> >slaughtered nearly 8,000 men and boys between the ages of twelve > >> >> >> >> >and sixty - the worst mass murder in Europe since World War II. > >> >> >> >> >In addition, the Serbs continued to engage in mass rapes of > >> >> >> >> >Muslim females. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Lalu gimana dgn nabi Islam dan pejihad2 lainnya yg ngebantai > >> >> >> >> >> orang demi auloh? Justru ngebantainya demi auloh tuh. > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >________________________________ > >> >> >> >> >> > From: arra_s <arra_s@> > >> >> >> >> >> >To: [email protected] > >> >> >> >> >> >Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 8:55 AM > >> >> >> >> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >ÃÆ'Ã'Ãâ 'ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦Ã¡ÃÆ'Ã'âââ¬à ¡ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >ada apa dengan paham atheis??? > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >mengapa si atheist Polpot bisa menjadi pembantai berdarah > >> >> >> >> >> >dingin, yang duh kejam nya... duh nistanya..... > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >apakah karena anggap Tuhan tidak ada? sehingga semua > >> >> >> >> >> >perbuatan tidak akan ada pertanggung jawaban nya??? > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >duh ruginya..... > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >--- In [email protected], "johny_indon" <johny_indon@> > >> >> >> >> >> >wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> para atheist mungkin merasa 'terangkat' martabatnya > >> >> >> >> >> >> kalau ngasih contoh einstein (yg sebenernya belom jelas > >> >> >> >> >> >> juga dia atheist beneran atau bukan karena > >> >> >> >> >> >> ngga ada di daftar ini > >> >> >> >> >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_atheist_activists_and_educators) > >> >> >> >> >> >> atau orang2 'pinter' > >> >> >> >> >> >> lainnya yg kebeneran atheist. > >> >> >> >> >> >> tapi oke lah, biar pada seneng, anggap aja einstein atheist. > >> >> >> >> >> >> cuman, mereka emang maunya milih2. > >> >> >> >> >> >> mereka ngga mau ngasih contoh atheist pembantai berdarah > >> >> >> >> >> >> dingin > >> >> >> >> >> >> yg membunuh 2 juta orang kamboja yg bernama saloth sar > >> >> >> >> >> >> alias pol pot, misalnya. > >> >> >> >> >> >> bayangin aja, si atheist ini menganggap orang yg bisa > >> >> >> >> >> >> bahasa > >> >> >> >> >> >> asing, pake kacamata atau sekedar pake jam tangan kudu > >> >> >> >> >> >> dibunuh. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> hebat kan atheist itu? > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.cambodia.org/khmer_rouge/ > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> As the new ruler of Cambodia, Pol Pot set about > >> >> >> >> >> >> transforming the country into his vision of an agrarian > >> >> >> >> >> >> utopia. The cities were evacuated, factories and schools > >> >> >> >> >> >> were closed, and currency and private property was > >> >> >> >> >> >> abolished. Anyone believed to be an intellectual, such as > >> >> >> >> >> >> someone who spoke a foreign language, was immediately > >> >> >> >> >> >> killed. Skilled workers were also killed, in addition to > >> >> >> >> >> >> anyone caught in possession of eyeglasses, a wristwatch, or > >> >> >> >> >> >> any other modern technology. In forced marches punctuated > >> >> >> >> >> >> with atrocities from the Khmer Rouge, the millions who > >> >> >> >> >> >> failed to escape Cambodia were herded onto rural collective > >> >> >> >> >> >> farms. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> --- In [email protected], "arra_s" <arra_s@> wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > dari tulisan2 pinpin sebelumnya, ada sedikit pencerahan > >> >> >> >> >> >> > tentang atheisme, jadi rada paham bahwa atheisme juga > >> >> >> >> >> >> > masih buta dalam pencarian nya... > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > baru tahu juga kalau para atheisme menjadikan einstein > >> >> >> >> >> >> > sebagai nara sumber... einstein sebagai nara sumber > >> >> >> >> >> >> > bidang science memang iya, tapi kalau nara sumber > >> >> >> >> >> >> > spiritual, masak iya sih.... > >> >> >> >> >> >> > beda bidang keahlian.... > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > menurut saya nara sumber spiritual yg paling tepat adalah > >> >> >> >> >> >> > pengalaman diri sendiri plus mikir.. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > supaya mikir nya terarah perlu ilmu, informasi etc... > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > --- In [email protected], Habe Proletar > >> >> >> >> >> >> > <proletar4@> wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > Kalau bener ini si pinpin yang dulu pertama kali > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > mengumandangkan > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ÃÆ'Ã'Ãâ 'ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦Ã¡ÃÆ'Ã'âââ¬à ¡ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâàgerakan" > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > islam protestant " > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > dan sekarang dia kembali aktif di sini > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > maka milis proletar pantas bangga, dari milis ini telah > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > lahir seorang mahdi, seorang perombak > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > paham paham statis keagamaan, seorang filsuf > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > pemikiran pinpin bukan cuma mampu merombak doktrin > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ortodoksi keagamaan > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > tapi juga menjungkirbalikan paham apkiran > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ÃÆ'Ã'Ãâ 'ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦Ã¡ÃÆ'Ã'âââ¬à ¡ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâàamburadul > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > seperti atheisme, areligious, > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > jusfikunisme,itemfaggotisme > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > dan proudtobemiskinis lalapan kambing ade kimhooknisme > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > hail to the new mahdi... > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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