Teddy yang sang oportunis yang berotak busuk bawa pendapat pendapat tanpa dukungan argumen..
Dia bilang nulis: "cuma lihat argumen yang dibawa iteam abu dalam bahasa Inggris itu ternyata malah mengemplang kepala lu sendiri. Nggak dijelasin apa dari yang ditulis iteam abu yang dikemplang oleh hadits itu. --- In [email protected], "Teddy S." <teddyr@...> wrote: > > He he he > > Gua cuma lihat argumen yang lu bawa dalam bahasa Inggris itu ternyata malah > mengemplang kepala lu sendiri. Makanya jangan sok bawa bukti dalam bahasa > asing yang lu kagak kuasai. Itu doang nasehat gua kagak kurang kagak lebih. > > Ngomong-ngomong, lu sebenarnya lulusan mana sih? > Setahu gua anak-anak ITB yang lu bilang sekolahnya butut itu di mana mereka > dulunya kebanyakan putra-putri petani bisa baca textbook dalam bahasa Inggris > dalam waktu pinjam yang amat terbatas di perpustakaan. Jadinya kalau lu > sampai bisa keterima aja di sekolah butut itu, gua rasa sekurang-kurangnya > kemampuan bahasa Inggris lu lebih bagus dari keadaan sekarang. > > He he he > > > --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > > > Hehehe.... si Teddy ini tukang ngejilat pantat Islam, jadi tentunya dia > > anggap perbuatan orang2 Islam terbaik ini ga salah. > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > From: Teddy S. <teddyr@> > > >To: [email protected] > > >Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 12:42 PM > > >Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi > > > > > > > > > > > >Bagaimana bisa bahasa Inggris becus, wong sekolah butut kayak ITB (menurut > > >si doi) dia kagak keterima. > > > > > >--- In [email protected], "johny_indon" <johny_indon@> wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> pertama jadi lu mengimani hadis ya, kita catet itu. > > >> kedua, lu ngerti bahasa inggris ngga sih? > > >> > > >> > > >> --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > Bukhari Volume 5, Book 59, Number 459: > > >> > Narrated Ibn Muhairiz: > > >> > >I entered the Mosque and saw Abu Said Al-Khudri and sat beside him > > >> > >and asked him about Al-Azl (i.e. coitus interruptus). Abu Said said, > > >> > >"We went out with Allah's Apostle for the Ghazwa of Banu Al-Mustaliq > > >> > >and we received captives from among the Arab captives and we desired > > >> > >women and celibacy became hard on us and we loved to do coitus > > >> > >interruptus. So when we intended to do coitus interrupt us, we said, > > >> > >'How can we do coitus interruptus before asking Allah's Apostle who > > >> > >is present among us?" We asked (him) about it and he said, 'It is > > >> > >better for you not to do so, for if any soul (till the Day of > > >> > >Resurrection) is predestined to exist, it will exist." > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >________________________________ > > >> > > From: johny_indon <johny_indon@> > > >> > >To: [email protected] > > >> > >Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 9:11 AM > > >> > >Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >à> > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >gua menentang pembantaian dan pemerkosaan yg dilakukan oleh siapapun. > > >> > >sekarang coba lu bawa bukti yg elu percayai sebagai kebenaran bahwa > > >> > >nabi melakukan pembantaian dan peerkosaan. > > >> > >gua udah pernah nanya ini tapi elu ngacir ngga sanggup jawab. > > >> > > > > >> > >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > >> > >> > > >> > >> Apa lu pernah kaing2 ttg pembantaian dan pemerkosaan yg dilakukan > > >> > >> pejihad2 Islam termasuk oleh nabi lu? > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> >________________________________ > > >> > >> > From: johny_indon <johny_indon@> > > >> > >> >To: [email protected] > > >> > >> >Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 8:31 AM > > >> > >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> >Ãâà> > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> >terbukti sudah dgn gamblang. > > >> > >> >ternyata yg dimaksud si jusplik dgn orang "mulia" dan "anti > > >> > >> >kekerasan" itu adalah > > >> > >> >bajingan yg menganggap lumrah pemerkosaan dan pembantaian tentara > > >> > >> >serbia > > >> > >> >terhadap muslim bosnia. > > >> > >> >si bajingan itu juga menikmati lolongan cewek yg lagi disiksa. > > >> > >> >luar biasa! > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> Ga perlu gua ngomong semua pendapat gua, goblok. Terserah aja lu > > >> > >> >> mau mlintir2 kayak apa, toh emang cuma itu kemampuan lu. > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> >________________________________ > > >> > >> >> > From: johny_indon <johny_indon@> > > >> > >> >> >To: [email protected] > > >> > >> >> >Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 12:03 PM > > >> > >> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi > > >> > >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà> > >> > >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >dan elu, yg kata si jusplik menolak kekerasan, tidak pernah > > >> > >> >> >keberatan dgn pembantaian dan pemerkosaan muslim bosnia oleh > > >> > >> >> >kresten serbia yg terjadi > > >> > >> >> >di abad 20 ini. > > >> > >> >> >dasar elu kresten biadab. > > >> > >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > >> > >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> >> Orang Serbia udah ditindas selama berabad2 oleh orang Islam > > >> > >> >> >> di jaman Ottoman, goblok. > > >> > >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> >> >________________________________ > > >> > >> >> >> > From: johny_indon <johny_indon@> > > >> > >> >> >> >To: [email protected] > > >> > >> >> >> >Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 1:49 PM > > >> > >> >> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi > > >> > >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >ÃÆ'Ã'âââ¬à ¡ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà> > >> > >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >pembelaan yg sangat tolol. > > >> > >> >> >> >orang kresten yg cerdas pasti malu baca argumen sampah elu > > >> > >> >> >> >itu. > > >> > >> >> >> >karena elu bahkan ngga berani mengutuk apa yg dilakukan > > >> > >> >> >> >kresten serbia, malah bikin pembelaan ngawur "Orang Serbia > > >> > >> >> >> >itu udah sekian lama ditindas oleh orang Islam, jadi ga aneh > > >> > >> >> >> >kalo mereka ngebalas apa yg sdh dilakukan orang Islam thd > > >> > >> >> >> >mereka". > > >> > >> >> >> >padahal di link yg gua kasih udah lengkap kronologis > > >> > >> >> >> >pembantaian > > >> > >> >> >> >muslim bosnia oleh kresten serbia itu, tapi lu menolak fakta > > >> > >> >> >> >di depan mata dengan argumen ngawur asal2an ala musmus. > > >> > >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >malu ya ternyata orang2 yg seiman dengan elu ternyata buas2? > > >> > >> >> >> >dan ini terjadi di abad 20 di mana sebagian besar umat > > >> > >> >> >> >manusia > > >> > >> >> >> >sudah semakin beradab. > > >> > >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >kalau elu berdalih "yg nyetop pembantaian itu jg bukan orang > > >> > >> >> >> >Islam, tp orang "Kristen" ", lha yg nangkepin dan nembak > > >> > >> >> >> >mati teroris > > >> > >> >> >> >di indonesia juga orang islam. polisi, intel, kapolri, semua > > >> > >> >> >> >orang islam, bukan orang kresten, goblog. > > >> > >> >> >> >mau ngomong apa lagi lu sekarang? > > >> > >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >mana si jusplik mahaguru elu yg ngaku2 humanis itu? mingkem > > >> > >> >> >> >sejuta basa dia. > > >> > >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > >> > >> >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> Hehehe... orang Islam terus aja ga mau ngaku pembantaian > > >> > >> >> >> >> yg dilakukan demi auloh. > > >> > >> >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> Orang Serbia melakukan pembantaian itu ga ada hubungan dgn > > >> > >> >> >> >> ajaran Kristen, dan yg nyetop pembantaian itu jg bukan > > >> > >> >> >> >> orang Islam, tp orang "Kristen". > > >> > >> >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> Sebaliknya, banyak pembantaian yg dilakukan dlm rangka > > >> > >> >> >> >> berjihad di jalan auloh. Apa orang Islam mau ngibul bhw > > >> > >> >> >> >> pejihad2 yg ngebantai non Islam itu bukan melakukannya > > >> > >> >> >> >> demi auloh dan ga sesuai dgn ajaran Islam? > > >> > >> >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> Orang Serbia itu udah sekian lama ditindas oleh orang > > >> > >> >> >> >> Islam, jadi ga aneh kalo mereka ngebalas apa yg sdh > > >> > >> >> >> >> dilakukan orang Islam thd mereka. > > >> > >> >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> >________________________________ > > >> > >> >> >> >> > From: johny_indon <johny_indon@> > > >> > >> >> >> >> >To: [email protected] > > >> > >> >> >> >> >Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 10:41 AM > > >> > >> >> >> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi > > >> > >> >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >> >ÃÆ'Ã'Ãâ 'ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦Ã¡ÃÆ'Ã'âââ¬à ¡ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà> > >> > >> >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >> >pembantaian yg lu maksud yg ini bukan? > > >> > >> >> >> >> >(pengen tau juga komentar mahaguru elu si jusplik). > > >> > >> >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >> >**** In addition, the Serbs continued to engage in mass > > >> > >> >> >> >> >rapes of Muslim females. ***** > > >> > >> >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >> >http://www.historyplace.com/worldhistory/genocide/bosnia.htm > > >> > >> >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >> >Yugoslavia was composed of ethnic and religious groups > > >> > >> >> >> >> >that had been historical rivals, even bitter enemies, > > >> > >> >> >> >> >including the Serbs (Orthodox Christians), Croats > > >> > >> >> >> >> >(Catholics) and ethnic Albanians (Muslims). > > >> > >> >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >> >*** > > >> > >> >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >> >Sarajevo soon became known as the city where Serb snipers > > >> > >> >> >> >> >continually shot down helpless civilians in the streets, > > >> > >> >> >> >> >including eventually over 3,500 children. > > >> > >> >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >> >*** > > >> > >> >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >> >Bosnian Muslims were hopelessly outgunned. As the Serbs > > >> > >> >> >> >> >gained ground, they began to systematically roundup local > > >> > >> >> >> >> >Muslims in scenes eerily similar to those that had > > >> > >> >> >> >> >occurred under the Nazis during World War II, including > > >> > >> >> >> >> >mass shootings, forced repopulation of entire towns, and > > >> > >> >> >> >> >confinement in make-shift concentration camps for men and > > >> > >> >> >> >> >boys. The Serbs also terrorized Muslim families into > > >> > >> >> >> >> >fleeing their villages by using rape as a weapon against > > >> > >> >> >> >> >women and girls. > > >> > >> >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >> >The actions of the Serbs were labeled as 'ethnic > > >> > >> >> >> >> >cleansing,' a name which quickly took hold among the > > >> > >> >> >> >> >international media. > > >> > >> >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >> >*** > > >> > >> >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >> >Throughout 1993, confident that the U.N., United States > > >> > >> >> >> >> >and the European Community would not take militarily > > >> > >> >> >> >> >action, Serbs in Bosnia freely committed genocide against > > >> > >> >> >> >> >Muslims. > > >> > >> >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >> >*** > > >> > >> >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >> >At this point, some of the worst genocidal activities of > > >> > >> >> >> >> >the four-year-old conflict occurred. In Srebrenica, a > > >> > >> >> >> >> >Safe Haven, U.N. peacekeepers stood by helplessly as the > > >> > >> >> >> >> >Serbs under the command of General Ratko Mladic > > >> > >> >> >> >> >systematically selected and then slaughtered nearly 8,000 > > >> > >> >> >> >> >men and boys between the ages of twelve and sixty - the > > >> > >> >> >> >> >worst mass murder in Europe since World War II. In > > >> > >> >> >> >> >addition, the Serbs continued to engage in mass rapes of > > >> > >> >> >> >> >Muslim females. > > >> > >> >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >> >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> > > >> > >> >> >> >> >wrote: > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> Lalu gimana dgn nabi Islam dan pejihad2 lainnya yg > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> ngebantai orang demi auloh? Justru ngebantainya demi > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> auloh tuh. > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >________________________________ > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> > From: arra_s <arra_s@> > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >To: [email protected] > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 8:55 AM > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >ÃÆ'Ã'Ãâ 'ÃÆ'ââ¬Â 'ÃÆ'Ã'ÃââÃÆ'ââââ¬à ¡ÃâìÃÆ'ââ¬Â¦ÃâáÃÆ'Ã'Ãâ 'ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦Ã¡ÃÆ'Ã'âââ¬à ¡ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >ada apa dengan paham atheis??? > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >mengapa si atheist Polpot bisa menjadi pembantai > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >berdarah dingin, yang duh kejam nya... duh > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >nistanya..... > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >apakah karena anggap Tuhan tidak ada? sehingga semua > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >perbuatan tidak akan ada pertanggung jawaban nya??? > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >duh ruginya..... > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >--- In [email protected], "johny_indon" > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> ><johny_indon@> wrote: > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> para atheist mungkin merasa 'terangkat' martabatnya > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> kalau ngasih contoh einstein (yg sebenernya belom > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> jelas > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> juga dia atheist beneran atau bukan karena > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> ngga ada di daftar ini > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_atheist_activists_and_educators) > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> atau orang2 'pinter' > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> lainnya yg kebeneran atheist. > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> tapi oke lah, biar pada seneng, anggap aja einstein > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> atheist. > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> cuman, mereka emang maunya milih2. > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> mereka ngga mau ngasih contoh atheist pembantai > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> berdarah dingin > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> yg membunuh 2 juta orang kamboja yg bernama saloth > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> sar alias pol pot, misalnya. > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> bayangin aja, si atheist ini menganggap orang yg > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> bisa bahasa > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> asing, pake kacamata atau sekedar pake jam tangan > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> kudu dibunuh. > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> hebat kan atheist itu? > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.cambodia.org/khmer_rouge/ > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> As the new ruler of Cambodia, Pol Pot set about > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> transforming the country into his vision of an > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> agrarian utopia. The cities were evacuated, > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> factories and schools were closed, and currency and > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> private property was abolished. Anyone believed to > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> be an intellectual, such as someone who spoke a > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> foreign language, was immediately killed. Skilled > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> workers were also killed, in addition to anyone > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> caught in possession of eyeglasses, a wristwatch, or > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> any other modern technology. In forced marches > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> punctuated with atrocities from the Khmer Rouge, the > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> millions who failed to escape Cambodia were herded > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> onto rural collective farms. > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> --- In [email protected], "arra_s" <arra_s@> > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote: > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > dari tulisan2 pinpin sebelumnya, ada sedikit > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > pencerahan tentang atheisme, jadi rada paham bahwa > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > atheisme juga masih buta dalam pencarian nya... > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > baru tahu juga kalau para atheisme menjadikan > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > einstein sebagai nara sumber... einstein sebagai > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > nara sumber bidang science memang iya, tapi kalau > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > nara sumber spiritual, masak iya sih.... > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > beda bidang keahlian.... > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > menurut saya nara sumber spiritual yg paling tepat > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > adalah pengalaman diri sendiri plus mikir.. > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > supaya mikir nya terarah perlu ilmu, informasi > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > etc... > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > --- In [email protected], Habe Proletar > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > <proletar4@> wrote: > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > Kalau bener ini si pinpin yang dulu pertama kali > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > mengumandangkan > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ÃÆ'Ã'Ãâ 'ÃÆ'ââ¬Â 'ÃÆ'Ã'ÃââÃÆ'ââââ¬à ¡ÃâìÃÆ'ââ¬Â¦ÃâáÃÆ'Ã'Ãâ 'ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦Ã¡ÃÆ'Ã'âââ¬à ¡ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâàgerakan" > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > islam protestant " > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > dan sekarang dia kembali aktif di sini > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > maka milis proletar pantas bangga, dari milis > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ini telah lahir seorang mahdi, seorang perombak > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > paham paham statis keagamaan, seorang filsuf > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > pemikiran pinpin bukan cuma mampu merombak > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > doktrin ortodoksi keagamaan > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > tapi juga menjungkirbalikan paham apkiran > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ÃÆ'Ã'Ãâ 'ÃÆ'ââ¬Â 'ÃÆ'Ã'ÃââÃÆ'ââââ¬à ¡ÃâìÃÆ'ââ¬Â¦ÃâáÃÆ'Ã'Ãâ 'ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦Ã¡ÃÆ'Ã'âââ¬à ¡ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâàamburadul > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > seperti atheisme, areligious, > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > jusfikunisme,itemfaggotisme > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > dan proudtobemiskinis lalapan kambing ade > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > kimhooknisme > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > hail to the new mahdi... > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > removed] > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >> > >> >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> > > > >> > >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >> > >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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