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--- In [email protected], "johny_indon" <johny_indon@...> wrote:
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> pertama jadi lu mengimani hadis ya, kita catet itu. 
> kedua, lu ngerti bahasa inggris ngga sih? 
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> --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote:
> >
> > Bukhari Volume 5, Book 59, Number 459:   
> > Narrated Ibn Muhairiz: 
> > >I entered the Mosque and saw Abu Said Al-Khudri and sat beside him and 
> > >asked him about Al-Azl (i.e. coitus interruptus). Abu Said said, "We  went 
> > >out with Allah's Apostle for the Ghazwa of Banu Al-Mustaliq and  we 
> > >received captives from among the Arab captives and we desired women and 
> > >celibacy became hard on us and we loved to do coitus interruptus.  So when 
> > >we intended to do coitus interrupt us, we said, 'How can we do coitus 
> > >interruptus before asking Allah's Apostle who is present among  us?" We 
> > >asked (him) about it and he said, 'It is better for you not to do so, for 
> > >if any soul (till the Day of Resurrection) is predestined  to exist, it 
> > >will exist." 
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > 
> > >________________________________
> > > From: johny_indon <johny_indon@>
> > >To: [email protected] 
> > >Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 9:11 AM
> > >Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi
> > > 
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > >
> > >gua menentang pembantaian dan pemerkosaan yg dilakukan oleh siapapun. 
> > >sekarang coba lu bawa bukti yg elu percayai sebagai kebenaran bahwa nabi 
> > >melakukan pembantaian dan peerkosaan. 
> > >gua udah pernah nanya ini tapi elu ngacir ngga sanggup jawab. 
> > >
> > >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Apa lu pernah kaing2 ttg pembantaian dan pemerkosaan yg dilakukan 
> > >> pejihad2 Islam termasuk oleh nabi lu?
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> >________________________________
> > >> > From: johny_indon <johny_indon@>
> > >> >To: [email protected] 
> > >> >Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 8:31 AM
> > >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi
> > >> > 
> > >> >
> > >> >  
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >terbukti sudah dgn gamblang. 
> > >> >ternyata yg dimaksud si jusplik dgn orang "mulia" dan "anti kekerasan" 
> > >> >itu adalah 
> > >> >bajingan yg menganggap lumrah pemerkosaan dan pembantaian tentara 
> > >> >serbia 
> > >> >terhadap muslim bosnia. 
> > >> >si bajingan itu juga menikmati lolongan cewek yg lagi disiksa. 
> > >> >luar biasa! 
> > >> >
> > >> >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Ga perlu gua ngomong semua pendapat gua, goblok. Terserah aja lu mau 
> > >> >> mlintir2 kayak apa, toh emang cuma itu kemampuan lu.
> > >> >> 
> > >> >> 
> > >> >> 
> > >> >> 
> > >> >> >________________________________
> > >> >> > From: johny_indon <johny_indon@>
> > >> >> >To: [email protected] 
> > >> >> >Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 12:03 PM
> > >> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi
> > >> >> > 
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >  
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >dan elu, yg kata si jusplik menolak kekerasan, tidak pernah 
> > >> >> >keberatan dgn pembantaian dan pemerkosaan muslim bosnia oleh kresten 
> > >> >> >serbia yg terjadi 
> > >> >> >di abad 20 ini. 
> > >> >> >dasar elu kresten biadab. 
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote:
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Orang Serbia udah ditindas selama berabad2 oleh orang Islam di 
> > >> >> >> jaman Ottoman, goblok.
> > >> >> >> 
> > >> >> >> 
> > >> >> >> 
> > >> >> >> 
> > >> >> >> >________________________________
> > >> >> >> > From: johny_indon <johny_indon@>
> > >> >> >> >To: [email protected] 
> > >> >> >> >Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 1:49 PM
> > >> >> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi
> > >> >> >> > 
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >ÃÆ'‚  
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >pembelaan yg sangat tolol.
> > >> >> >> >orang kresten yg cerdas pasti malu baca argumen sampah elu itu.
> > >> >> >> >karena elu bahkan ngga berani mengutuk apa yg dilakukan kresten 
> > >> >> >> >serbia, malah bikin pembelaan ngawur "Orang Serbia itu udah 
> > >> >> >> >sekian lama ditindas oleh orang Islam, jadi ga aneh kalo mereka 
> > >> >> >> >ngebalas apa yg sdh dilakukan orang Islam thd mereka".
> > >> >> >> >padahal di link yg gua kasih udah lengkap kronologis pembantaian 
> > >> >> >> >muslim bosnia oleh kresten serbia itu, tapi lu menolak fakta di 
> > >> >> >> >depan mata dengan argumen ngawur asal2an ala musmus.
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >malu ya ternyata orang2 yg seiman dengan elu ternyata buas2?
> > >> >> >> >dan ini terjadi di abad 20 di mana sebagian besar umat manusia 
> > >> >> >> >sudah semakin beradab.
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >kalau elu berdalih "yg nyetop pembantaian itu jg bukan orang 
> > >> >> >> >Islam, tp orang "Kristen" ", lha yg nangkepin dan nembak mati 
> > >> >> >> >teroris 
> > >> >> >> >di indonesia juga orang islam. polisi, intel, kapolri, semua 
> > >> >> >> >orang islam, bukan orang kresten, goblog.
> > >> >> >> >mau ngomong apa lagi lu sekarang?
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >mana si jusplik mahaguru elu yg ngaku2 humanis itu? mingkem 
> > >> >> >> >sejuta basa dia.
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote:
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> Hehehe... orang Islam terus aja ga mau ngaku pembantaian yg 
> > >> >> >> >> dilakukan demi auloh.
> > >> >> >> >> 
> > >> >> >> >> Orang Serbia melakukan pembantaian itu ga ada hubungan dgn 
> > >> >> >> >> ajaran Kristen, dan yg nyetop pembantaian itu jg bukan orang 
> > >> >> >> >> Islam, tp orang "Kristen".
> > >> >> >> >> 
> > >> >> >> >> Sebaliknya, banyak pembantaian yg dilakukan dlm rangka berjihad 
> > >> >> >> >> di jalan auloh. Apa orang Islam mau ngibul bhw pejihad2 yg 
> > >> >> >> >> ngebantai non Islam itu bukan melakukannya demi auloh dan ga 
> > >> >> >> >> sesuai dgn ajaran Islam?
> > >> >> >> >> 
> > >> >> >> >> Orang Serbia itu udah sekian lama ditindas oleh orang Islam, 
> > >> >> >> >> jadi ga aneh kalo mereka ngebalas apa yg sdh dilakukan orang 
> > >> >> >> >> Islam thd mereka.
> > >> >> >> >> 
> > >> >> >> >> 
> > >> >> >> >> 
> > >> >> >> >> 
> > >> >> >> >> >________________________________
> > >> >> >> >> > From: johny_indon <johny_indon@>
> > >> >> >> >> >To: [email protected] 
> > >> >> >> >> >Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 10:41 AM
> > >> >> >> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi
> > >> >> >> >> > 
> > >> >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> >ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚  
> > >> >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> >pembantaian yg lu maksud yg ini bukan? 
> > >> >> >> >> >(pengen tau juga komentar mahaguru elu si jusplik).
> > >> >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> >**** In addition, the Serbs continued to engage in mass rapes 
> > >> >> >> >> >of Muslim females. *****
> > >> >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> >http://www.historyplace.com/worldhistory/genocide/bosnia.htm
> > >> >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> >Yugoslavia was composed of ethnic and religious groups that 
> > >> >> >> >> >had been historical rivals, even bitter enemies, including the 
> > >> >> >> >> >Serbs (Orthodox Christians), Croats (Catholics) and ethnic 
> > >> >> >> >> >Albanians (Muslims).
> > >> >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> >***
> > >> >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> >Sarajevo soon became known as the city where Serb snipers 
> > >> >> >> >> >continually shot down helpless civilians in the streets, 
> > >> >> >> >> >including eventually over 3,500 children.
> > >> >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> >***
> > >> >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> >Bosnian Muslims were hopelessly outgunned. As the Serbs gained 
> > >> >> >> >> >ground, they began to systematically roundup local Muslims in 
> > >> >> >> >> >scenes eerily similar to those that had occurred under the 
> > >> >> >> >> >Nazis during World War II, including mass shootings, forced 
> > >> >> >> >> >repopulation of entire towns, and confinement in make-shift 
> > >> >> >> >> >concentration camps for men and boys. The Serbs also 
> > >> >> >> >> >terrorized Muslim families into fleeing their villages by 
> > >> >> >> >> >using rape as a weapon against women and girls.
> > >> >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> >The actions of the Serbs were labeled as 'ethnic cleansing,' a 
> > >> >> >> >> >name which quickly took hold among the international media. 
> > >> >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> >***
> > >> >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> >Throughout 1993, confident that the U.N., United States and 
> > >> >> >> >> >the European Community would not take militarily action, Serbs 
> > >> >> >> >> >in Bosnia freely committed genocide against Muslims. 
> > >> >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> >***
> > >> >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> >At this point, some of the worst genocidal activities of the 
> > >> >> >> >> >four-year-old conflict occurred. In Srebrenica, a Safe Haven, 
> > >> >> >> >> >U.N. peacekeepers stood by helplessly as the Serbs under the 
> > >> >> >> >> >command of General Ratko Mladic systematically selected and 
> > >> >> >> >> >then slaughtered nearly 8,000 men and boys between the ages of 
> > >> >> >> >> >twelve and sixty - the worst mass murder in Europe since World 
> > >> >> >> >> >War II. In addition, the Serbs continued to engage in mass 
> > >> >> >> >> >rapes of Muslim females. 
> > >> >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote:
> > >> >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> >> Lalu gimana dgn nabi Islam dan pejihad2 lainnya yg ngebantai 
> > >> >> >> >> >> orang demi auloh? Justru ngebantainya demi auloh tuh.
> > >> >> >> >> >> 
> > >> >> >> >> >> 
> > >> >> >> >> >> 
> > >> >> >> >> >> 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >________________________________
> > >> >> >> >> >> > From: arra_s <arra_s@>
> > >> >> >> >> >> >To: [email protected] 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 8:55 AM
> > >> >> >> >> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Pinpin a new mahdi
> > >> >> >> >> >> > 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> >> >ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > >> >> >> >> >> > 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> >> >ada apa dengan paham atheis???
> > >> >> >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> >> >mengapa si atheist Polpot bisa menjadi pembantai berdarah 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >dingin, yang duh kejam nya...  duh nistanya.....
> > >> >> >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> >> >apakah karena anggap Tuhan tidak ada? sehingga semua 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >perbuatan tidak akan ada pertanggung jawaban nya???
> > >> >> >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> >> >duh ruginya.....
> > >> >> >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> >> >--- In [email protected], "johny_indon" 
> > >> >> >> >> >> ><johny_indon@> wrote:
> > >> >> >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> para atheist mungkin merasa 'terangkat' martabatnya 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> kalau ngasih contoh einstein (yg sebenernya belom jelas 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> juga dia atheist beneran atau bukan karena 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> ngga ada di daftar ini 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_atheist_activists_and_educators)
> > >> >> >> >> >> >>  atau orang2 'pinter' 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> lainnya yg kebeneran atheist.
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> tapi oke lah, biar pada seneng, anggap aja einstein 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> atheist.
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> cuman, mereka emang maunya milih2.
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> mereka ngga mau ngasih contoh atheist pembantai berdarah 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> dingin 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> yg membunuh 2 juta orang kamboja yg bernama saloth sar 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> alias pol pot, misalnya.
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> bayangin aja, si atheist ini menganggap orang yg bisa 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> bahasa 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> asing, pake kacamata atau sekedar pake jam tangan kudu 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> dibunuh.
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> hebat kan atheist itu?
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.cambodia.org/khmer_rouge/
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> As the new ruler of Cambodia, Pol Pot set about 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> transforming the country into his vision of an agrarian 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> utopia. The cities were evacuated, factories and schools 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> were closed, and currency and private property was 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> abolished. Anyone believed to be an intellectual, such as 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> someone who spoke a foreign language, was immediately 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> killed. Skilled workers were also killed, in addition to 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> anyone caught in possession of eyeglasses, a wristwatch, 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> or any other modern technology. In forced marches 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> punctuated with atrocities from the Khmer Rouge, the 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> millions who failed to escape Cambodia were herded onto 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> rural collective farms.
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> --- In [email protected], "arra_s" <arra_s@> wrote:
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > dari tulisan2 pinpin sebelumnya, ada sedikit pencerahan 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > tentang atheisme, jadi rada paham bahwa atheisme juga 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > masih buta dalam pencarian nya...
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > baru tahu juga kalau para atheisme menjadikan einstein 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > sebagai nara sumber...  einstein sebagai nara sumber 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > bidang science memang iya, tapi kalau nara sumber 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > spiritual, masak iya sih....
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > beda bidang keahlian.... 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > menurut saya nara sumber spiritual yg paling tepat 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > adalah pengalaman diri sendiri plus mikir..
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > supaya mikir nya terarah perlu ilmu, informasi etc... 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > --- In [email protected], Habe Proletar 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > <proletar4@> wrote:
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > Kalau bener ini si pinpin yang dulu pertama kali 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > mengumandangkan 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ gerakan"
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >  islam protestant "
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > dan sekarang dia kembali aktif di sini
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > maka milis proletar pantas bangga, dari milis ini 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > telah lahir seorang mahdi, seorang perombak
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > paham paham statis keagamaan, seorang filsuf
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > pemikiran pinpin bukan cuma mampu merombak doktrin 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ortodoksi keagamaan
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > tapi juga menjungkirbalikan paham apkiran 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ amburadul
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >  seperti atheisme, areligious, 
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > jusfikunisme,itemfaggotisme
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > dan proudtobemiskinis lalapan kambing ade kimhooknisme
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> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > hail to the new mahdi...
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