Oooo kapasitas mu menjawab pertanyaanku yang rendah. Pantes kalo gitu. Ya sudah kalo kau tak bisa menjelaskan ; duduk aja elo dipinggiran, nonton. Lagian kau kan udah Game Over ? ngapain elo ikut caampur lagi !
--- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@...> wrote: > > > Ini posting yang dikirim Si Kebenaran... > > Sekali algi: yang jadi masaalah memang adalah bahwa kapasitas otak Abbas Amin > itu tidak cukup untuk membaca apa yang sudah tahunan ditulis berulang-ulang > oleh kafir disini dan untuk merenungkannnnya... > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/message/258405 > > > --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > > > Gua rasa sebetulnya percuma ngasih kutipan ini ke si Abbas Amin, tp mungkin > > msh ada orang Islam yg masih punya otak. Kita lihat aja apa ada apa kagak. > > > > > > Ibn Kathir writes regarding 65:4 > > <divorce them at their `Iddah>, "The `Iddah is made up of cleanliness and > > the menstrual period." So he divorces her while it is clear that she is > > pregnant, or he does not due to having sex, or since he does not know if > > she is pregnant or not. This is why the scholars said that there are two > > types of divorce, one that conforms to the Sunnah and another innovated. > > The divorce that conforms to the Sunnah is one where the husband pronounces > > one divorce to his wife when she is not having her menses and without > > having had sexual intercourse with her after the menses ended. One could > > divorce his wife when it is clear that she is pregnant. As for the > > innovated divorce, it occurs when one divorces his wife when she is having > > her menses, or after the menses ends, has sexual intercourse with her and > > then divorces her, even though he does not know if she became pregnant or > > not. There is a third type of divorce, which is neither a Sunnah nor an > > innovation where one > > divorces A YOUNG WIFE WHO HAS NOT BEGUN TO HAVE MENSES, the wife who is > > beyond the age of having menses, and divorcing one's wife before the > > marriage was consummated. (Source; bold and capital emphasis ours) > > > > Al-Tabari said regarding 65:4 > > The interpretation of the verse "And those of your women as have passed the > > age of monthly courses, for them the 'Iddah (prescribed period), if you > > have doubt (about their periods), is three months; and for those who have > > no courses [(i.e. they are still immature) their 'Iddah (prescribed period) > > is three months likewise". He said: The same applies to the 'idaah for > > girls who do not menstruate because they are too young, if their husbands > > divorce them after consummating the marriage with them. > > >Tafseer al-Tabari, 14/142 (Source: Islam Q&A (www.islam-qa.com) > > >(Question #12708: Is it acceptable to marry a girl who has not yet started > > >her menses?) > > > > Regarding sex with prepubescent children, Abu-Alaâ Maududi states: > > "Therefore, making mention of the waiting-period for girls who have not yet > > menstruated, clearly proves that it is not only permissible to give away > > the girl at this age but it is permissible for the husband to consummate > > marriage with her. Now, obviously no Muslim has the right to forbid a thing > > which the Qurâan has held as permissible." (Maududi, volume 5, p. 620, > > note 13, emphasis added) > > > > It is clear: Muslim men can engage in sex with prepubescent children! > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > From: Abbas <abas_amin08@> > > >To: [email protected] > > >Sent: Saturday, July 7, 2012 1:57 PM > > >Subject: [proletar] Re: BBC: Mali militants (Ah, Abbas Amin mau belajar > > >dari al ustadz item abu > > > > > > > > > > > >Yang sampah itu kamu, Debil ! kalau terlalu fleksible; maaka bisa dikutak > > >katik oleh sembarangan orang; seperti kamu itu Debil ! > > >Masa anak balita disamakan dengan wanita yang sudah menopause ? Yang bener > > >saja kamu Bil ! > > >Memang sekaali item idiot abu; maka tetap saja abu idiot item > > > > > >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > >> > > >> Otak lu kagak nyampe, kalo ga eksplisit disebutkan, maka lu ga ngerti. > > >> Sama spt rata2 orang Islam. > > >> > > >> Makanya dibuat segala macam kitab sampah spt tafsir, fiqh dsb, spy lu > > >> bisa ngerti. Baca tuh tafsirnya. Saking gobloknya lu ini, udah ada > > >> tafsir jg lu masih ga ngerti. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >________________________________ > > >> > From: Abbas <abas_amin08@> > > >> >To: [email protected] > > >> >Sent: Saturday, July 7, 2012 11:46 AM > > >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: BBC: Mali militants (Ah, Abbas Amin mau > > >> >belajar dari al ustadz item abu > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >à> > >> >ah di qur_an depag tak disebutkan mengenai anak ingusan tuh; malah yang > > >> >menopause. Apa buat kamu Bil si anak ingusan = menopause ?! > > >> >please make it clear. > > >> > > > >> >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > >> >> > > >> >> 065.004 > > >> >> YUSUFALI: Such of your women as have passed the age of monthly > > >> >> courses, for them the prescribed period, if ye have any doubts, is > > >> >> three months, and for those who have no courses (it is the same): for > > >> >> those who carry (life within their wombs), their period is until they > > >> >> deliver their burdens: and for those who fear Allah, He will make > > >> >> their path easy. > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> Goblok, di 65:4 itu disebutkan 2 jenis cewek, cewek yg udah menopause > > >> >> dan cewek yg belum mens. > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >________________________________ > > >> >> > From: Abbas <abas_amin08@> > > >> >> >To: [email protected] > > >> >> >Sent: Saturday, July 7, 2012 7:26 AM > > >> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: BBC: Mali militants (Ah, Abbas Amin mau > > >> >> >belajar dari al ustadz item abu > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> >Ãâà> > >> >> >Hahahaha ! dasar goblok bin dungu ! si Jusfiq pedundu ini !Qur_an > > >> >> >surat 33 ayat 49 adalah mengenaai perempuan biaasa saja; bukan anak > > >> >> >balita ! > > >> >> > > > >> >> >Lebih ngawur lagi si Jusfiq pwdundu dengan surat 65 ayat 4 : Itu > > >> >> >justru untuk perempuan yang sudah sangat tua ! > > >> >> > > > >> >> >Goblok ! Goblok ! > > >> >> >kamu menunjukkan ayaat yang salah pedundu ! > > >> >> >Coba kalau ngebela si Debit Item IDIOT abu itu yang tepat Jusfiq > > >> >> >Pedundu jangan asal2an ! kan malu maluin seluruh kelompok ANTI ISLAM > > >> >> >!? > > >> >> >Goblok bukan ? > > >> >> >Ini adalah akibat otak Jusfiq sudah keraacunan buku shalmaan Rushdy > > >> >> >dan dawkins. Jadi BUSUk dan tak berfungsi lagi. > > >> >> > > > >> >> >--- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> > > >> >> >wrote: > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Ah, Abbas Amin yang dungu kayak anjing katanya mau belajar dari al > > >> >> >> ustadz item abu tentang ayat khurafah najis mengenai "anak dibawah > > >> >> >> umur boleh diembat".. > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Pertanda Abbas Amin ini emang dungu kayak anjing, karena item abu > > >> >> >> (dan juga Si Kebenaran) sudah menunjukkan ayatnya (lebih dari > > >> >> >> sekali). > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Ayatnya adalah QS 33:49 dan QS 65:4 > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> --- In [email protected], "Abbas" <abas_amin08@> wrote: > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > Bil, daripada kamu ngomong ngaco terus, coba sebutkan ayatnya ? > > >> >> >> > yang mengatakan bahwa anak dibawah umur boleh diembat !? > > >> >> >> > saya ingin belajar dari kamu ! coba ! > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > Nabi jg doyan ngembat anak ingusan, jadi ga heran kalo pejihad > > >> >> >> > > di jalan auloh jg suka melakukannya. Dan emang auloh > > >> >> >> > > ngehalalin ngembat anak ingusan di Quran. > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > >________________________________ > > >> >> >> > > > From: Bukan Pedanda <bukan.pedanda@> > > >> >> >> > > >To: [email protected] > > >> >> >> > > >Sent: Saturday, July 7, 2012 3:23 AM > > >> >> >> > > >Subject: [proletar] BBC: Mali militants recruit and abuse > > >> >> >> > > >children, says Unicef > > >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > > >ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà> > >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > > >BBC News Africa > > >> >> >> > > >6 July 2012 Last updated at 16:19 GMT > > >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > > >Mali militants recruit and abuse children, says Unicef > > >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > > >Children are being sexually abused and are being recruited to > > >> >> >> > > >fight for armed groups in Mali, according to the UN. > > >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > > >Unicef, the UN children's fund, said that Islamist militants > > >> >> >> > > >in the north of the country had forcibly recruited at least > > >> >> >> > > >175 boys aged 12-18. > > >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > > >Unicef said it had collected evidence that also indicated the > > >> >> >> > > >groups had raped and sexually abused girls. > > >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > > >A military coup in Mali in March 2012 allowed Islamist > > >> >> >> > > >militants to take control of the north of the country. > > >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > > >The UN Security Council said on Thursday it was not ready to > > >> >> >> > > >back a West African intervention force in northern Mali, but > > >> >> >> > > >instead passed a resolution calling for sanctions against the > > >> >> >> > > >groups. > > >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > > >Unicef said as well as abuse and the use of children as > > >> >> >> > > >fighters, children have also been killed and maimed by > > >> >> >> > > >landmines and other ordnance. > > >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > > >It went on to say that about 300,000 children have been > > >> >> >> > > >affected by the closure of schools in unstable areas. > > >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > > >Since rebels took control of the north of Mali, many children > > >> >> >> > > >have been living in camps where they face food shortages, > > >> >> >> > > >Unicef said. > > >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > > >The UN said the information they had presented was only a > > >> >> >> > > >partial picture, however, as it was too dangerous to > > >> >> >> > > >undertake proper research in northern Mali. > > >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > > >Unicef said it was working with partners in certain areas of > > >> >> >> > > >the country in an attempt to help communities to protect > > >> >> >> > > >children. > > >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > > >"Children in the north are witnessing or becoming victims of > > >> >> >> > > >violence and they must be protected," said Theophane Nikyema, > > >> >> >> > > >Unicef's Mali representative. > > >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > > >The ongoing conflict in Mali has seen mosques and shrines in > > >> >> >> > > >the historic city of Timbuktu attacked in recent weeks by > > >> >> >> > > >militants. > > >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > > >Ansar Dine, a group said to have links to al-Qaeda, said it > > >> >> >> > > >had an objective of destroying all mausoleums that were not > > >> >> >> > > >in line with Islamic law. > > >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > > >The group seized control of Timbuktu in April. > > >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > > >BBC > > >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > > >BBC ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâé 2012 The BBC is not responsible for > > >> >> >> > > >the content of external sites. 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