Ini posting yang dikirim Si Kebenaran... Sekali algi: yang jadi masaalah memang adalah bahwa kapasitas otak Abbas Amin itu tidak cukup untuk membaca apa yang sudah tahunan ditulis berulang-ulang oleh kafir disini dan untuk merenungkannnnya...
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/message/258405 --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@...> wrote: > > Gua rasa sebetulnya percuma ngasih kutipan ini ke si Abbas Amin, tp mungkin > msh ada orang Islam yg masih punya otak. Kita lihat aja apa ada apa kagak. > > > Ibn Kathir writes regarding 65:4 > <divorce them at their `Iddah>, "The `Iddah is made up of cleanliness and the > menstrual period." So he divorces her while it is clear that she is pregnant, > or he does not due to having sex, or since he does not know if she is > pregnant or not. This is why the scholars said that there are two types of > divorce, one that conforms to the Sunnah and another innovated. The divorce > that conforms to the Sunnah is one where the husband pronounces one divorce > to his wife when she is not having her menses and without having had sexual > intercourse with her after the menses ended. One could divorce his wife when > it is clear that she is pregnant. As for the innovated divorce, it occurs > when one divorces his wife when she is having her menses, or after the menses > ends, has sexual intercourse with her and then divorces her, even though he > does not know if she became pregnant or not. There is a third type of > divorce, which is neither a Sunnah nor an innovation where one > divorces A YOUNG WIFE WHO HAS NOT BEGUN TO HAVE MENSES, the wife who is > beyond the age of having menses, and divorcing one's wife before the marriage > was consummated. (Source; bold and capital emphasis ours) > > Al-Tabari said regarding 65:4 > The interpretation of the verse "And those of your women as have passed the > age of monthly courses, for them the 'Iddah (prescribed period), if you have > doubt (about their periods), is three months; and for those who have no > courses [(i.e. they are still immature) their 'Iddah (prescribed period) is > three months likewise". He said: The same applies to the 'idaah for girls who > do not menstruate because they are too young, if their husbands divorce them > after consummating the marriage with them. > >Tafseer al-Tabari, 14/142 (Source: Islam Q&A (www.islam-qa.com) > >(Question #12708: Is it acceptable to marry a girl who has not yet started > >her menses?) > > Regarding sex with prepubescent children, Abu-Alaâ Maududi states: > "Therefore, making mention of the waiting-period for girls who have not yet > menstruated, clearly proves that it is not only permissible to give away the > girl at this age but it is permissible for the husband to consummate marriage > with her. Now, obviously no Muslim has the right to forbid a thing which the > Qurâan has held as permissible." (Maududi, volume 5, p. 620, note 13, > emphasis added) > > It is clear: Muslim men can engage in sex with prepubescent children! > > > > > > >________________________________ > > From: Abbas <abas_amin08@...> > >To: [email protected] > >Sent: Saturday, July 7, 2012 1:57 PM > >Subject: [proletar] Re: BBC: Mali militants (Ah, Abbas Amin mau belajar > >dari al ustadz item abu > > > > > > > >Yang sampah itu kamu, Debil ! kalau terlalu fleksible; maaka bisa dikutak > >katik oleh sembarangan orang; seperti kamu itu Debil ! > >Masa anak balita disamakan dengan wanita yang sudah menopause ? Yang bener > >saja kamu Bil ! > >Memang sekaali item idiot abu; maka tetap saja abu idiot item > > > >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > >> > >> Otak lu kagak nyampe, kalo ga eksplisit disebutkan, maka lu ga ngerti. > >> Sama spt rata2 orang Islam. > >> > >> Makanya dibuat segala macam kitab sampah spt tafsir, fiqh dsb, spy lu bisa > >> ngerti. Baca tuh tafsirnya. Saking gobloknya lu ini, udah ada tafsir jg lu > >> masih ga ngerti. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >________________________________ > >> > From: Abbas <abas_amin08@> > >> >To: [email protected] > >> >Sent: Saturday, July 7, 2012 11:46 AM > >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: BBC: Mali militants (Ah, Abbas Amin mau belajar > >> >dari al ustadz item abu > >> > > >> > > >> >à> >> >ah di qur_an depag tak disebutkan mengenai anak ingusan tuh; malah yang > >> >menopause. Apa buat kamu Bil si anak ingusan = menopause ?! > >> >please make it clear. > >> > > >> >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> 065.004 > >> >> YUSUFALI: Such of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, > >> >> for them the prescribed period, if ye have any doubts, is three > >> >> months, and for those who have no courses (it is the same): for those > >> >> who carry (life within their wombs), their period is until they deliver > >> >> their burdens: and for those who fear Allah, He will make their path > >> >> easy. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Goblok, di 65:4 itu disebutkan 2 jenis cewek, cewek yg udah menopause > >> >> dan cewek yg belum mens. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >________________________________ > >> >> > From: Abbas <abas_amin08@> > >> >> >To: [email protected] > >> >> >Sent: Saturday, July 7, 2012 7:26 AM > >> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: BBC: Mali militants (Ah, Abbas Amin mau > >> >> >belajar dari al ustadz item abu > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >Ãâà> >> >> >Hahahaha ! dasar goblok bin dungu ! si Jusfiq pedundu ini !Qur_an > >> >> >surat 33 ayat 49 adalah mengenaai perempuan biaasa saja; bukan anak > >> >> >balita ! > >> >> > > >> >> >Lebih ngawur lagi si Jusfiq pwdundu dengan surat 65 ayat 4 : Itu > >> >> >justru untuk perempuan yang sudah sangat tua ! > >> >> > > >> >> >Goblok ! Goblok ! > >> >> >kamu menunjukkan ayaat yang salah pedundu ! > >> >> >Coba kalau ngebela si Debit Item IDIOT abu itu yang tepat Jusfiq > >> >> >Pedundu jangan asal2an ! kan malu maluin seluruh kelompok ANTI ISLAM !? > >> >> >Goblok bukan ? > >> >> >Ini adalah akibat otak Jusfiq sudah keraacunan buku shalmaan Rushdy > >> >> >dan dawkins. Jadi BUSUk dan tak berfungsi lagi. > >> >> > > >> >> >--- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> > >> >> >wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Ah, Abbas Amin yang dungu kayak anjing katanya mau belajar dari al > >> >> >> ustadz item abu tentang ayat khurafah najis mengenai "anak dibawah > >> >> >> umur boleh diembat".. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Pertanda Abbas Amin ini emang dungu kayak anjing, karena item abu > >> >> >> (dan juga Si Kebenaran) sudah menunjukkan ayatnya (lebih dari > >> >> >> sekali). > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Ayatnya adalah QS 33:49 dan QS 65:4 > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> --- In [email protected], "Abbas" <abas_amin08@> wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Bil, daripada kamu ngomong ngaco terus, coba sebutkan ayatnya ? > >> >> >> > yang mengatakan bahwa anak dibawah umur boleh diembat !? > >> >> >> > saya ingin belajar dari kamu ! coba ! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > Nabi jg doyan ngembat anak ingusan, jadi ga heran kalo pejihad > >> >> >> > > di jalan auloh jg suka melakukannya. Dan emang auloh ngehalalin > >> >> >> > > ngembat anak ingusan di Quran. > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > >________________________________ > >> >> >> > > > From: Bukan Pedanda <bukan.pedanda@> > >> >> >> > > >To: [email protected] > >> >> >> > > >Sent: Saturday, July 7, 2012 3:23 AM > >> >> >> > > >Subject: [proletar] BBC: Mali militants recruit and abuse > >> >> >> > > >children, says Unicef > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > >ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà> >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > >BBC News Africa > >> >> >> > > >6 July 2012 Last updated at 16:19 GMT > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > >Mali militants recruit and abuse children, says Unicef > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > >Children are being sexually abused and are being recruited to > >> >> >> > > >fight for armed groups in Mali, according to the UN. > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > >Unicef, the UN children's fund, said that Islamist militants in > >> >> >> > > >the north of the country had forcibly recruited at least 175 > >> >> >> > > >boys aged 12-18. > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > >Unicef said it had collected evidence that also indicated the > >> >> >> > > >groups had raped and sexually abused girls. > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > >A military coup in Mali in March 2012 allowed Islamist > >> >> >> > > >militants to take control of the north of the country. > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > >The UN Security Council said on Thursday it was not ready to > >> >> >> > > >back a West African intervention force in northern Mali, but > >> >> >> > > >instead passed a resolution calling for sanctions against the > >> >> >> > > >groups. > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > >Unicef said as well as abuse and the use of children as > >> >> >> > > >fighters, children have also been killed and maimed by > >> >> >> > > >landmines and other ordnance. > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > >It went on to say that about 300,000 children have been > >> >> >> > > >affected by the closure of schools in unstable areas. > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > >Since rebels took control of the north of Mali, many children > >> >> >> > > >have been living in camps where they face food shortages, > >> >> >> > > >Unicef said. > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > >The UN said the information they had presented was only a > >> >> >> > > >partial picture, however, as it was too dangerous to undertake > >> >> >> > > >proper research in northern Mali. > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > >Unicef said it was working with partners in certain areas of > >> >> >> > > >the country in an attempt to help communities to protect > >> >> >> > > >children. > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > >"Children in the north are witnessing or becoming victims of > >> >> >> > > >violence and they must be protected," said Theophane Nikyema, > >> >> >> > > >Unicef's Mali representative. > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > >The ongoing conflict in Mali has seen mosques and shrines in > >> >> >> > > >the historic city of Timbuktu attacked in recent weeks by > >> >> >> > > >militants. > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > >Ansar Dine, a group said to have links to al-Qaeda, said it had > >> >> >> > > >an objective of destroying all mausoleums that were not in line > >> >> >> > > >with Islamic law. > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > >The group seized control of Timbuktu in April. > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > >BBC > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > >BBC ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâé 2012 The BBC is not responsible for > >> >> >> > > >the content of external sites. 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