Gua rasa sebetulnya percuma ngasih kutipan ini ke si Abbas Amin, tp mungkin msh ada orang Islam yg masih punya otak. Kita lihat aja apa ada apa kagak.
Ibn Kathir writes regarding 65:4 <divorce them at their `Iddah>, "The `Iddah is made up of cleanliness and the menstrual period." So he divorces her while it is clear that she is pregnant, or he does not due to having sex, or since he does not know if she is pregnant or not. This is why the scholars said that there are two types of divorce, one that conforms to the Sunnah and another innovated. The divorce that conforms to the Sunnah is one where the husband pronounces one divorce to his wife when she is not having her menses and without having had sexual intercourse with her after the menses ended. One could divorce his wife when it is clear that she is pregnant. As for the innovated divorce, it occurs when one divorces his wife when she is having her menses, or after the menses ends, has sexual intercourse with her and then divorces her, even though he does not know if she became pregnant or not. There is a third type of divorce, which is neither a Sunnah nor an innovation where one divorces A YOUNG WIFE WHO HAS NOT BEGUN TO HAVE MENSES, the wife who is beyond the age of having menses, and divorcing one's wife before the marriage was consummated. (Source; bold and capital emphasis ours) Al-Tabari said regarding 65:4 The interpretation of the verse "And those of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the 'Iddah (prescribed period), if you have doubt (about their periods), is three months; and for those who have no courses [(i.e. they are still immature) their 'Iddah (prescribed period) is three months likewise". He said: The same applies to the 'idaah for girls who do not menstruate because they are too young, if their husbands divorce them after consummating the marriage with them. >Tafseer al-Tabari, 14/142 (Source: Islam Q&A (www.islam-qa.com) >(Question #12708: Is it acceptable to marry a girl who has not yet started her >menses?) Regarding sex with prepubescent children, Abu-Ala’ Maududi states: "Therefore, making mention of the waiting-period for girls who have not yet menstruated, clearly proves that it is not only permissible to give away the girl at this age but it is permissible for the husband to consummate marriage with her. Now, obviously no Muslim has the right to forbid a thing which the Qur’an has held as permissible." (Maududi, volume 5, p. 620, note 13, emphasis added) It is clear: Muslim men can engage in sex with prepubescent children! >________________________________ > From: Abbas <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Saturday, July 7, 2012 1:57 PM >Subject: [proletar] Re: BBC: Mali militants (Ah, Abbas Amin mau belajar dari >al ustadz item abu > > > >Yang sampah itu kamu, Debil ! kalau terlalu fleksible; maaka bisa dikutak >katik oleh sembarangan orang; seperti kamu itu Debil ! >Masa anak balita disamakan dengan wanita yang sudah menopause ? Yang bener >saja kamu Bil ! >Memang sekaali item idiot abu; maka tetap saja abu idiot item > >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@...> wrote: >> >> Otak lu kagak nyampe, kalo ga eksplisit disebutkan, maka lu ga ngerti. Sama >> spt rata2 orang Islam. >> >> Makanya dibuat segala macam kitab sampah spt tafsir, fiqh dsb, spy lu bisa >> ngerti. Baca tuh tafsirnya. Saking gobloknya lu ini, udah ada tafsir jg lu >> masih ga ngerti. >> >> >> >> >> >> >________________________________ >> > From: Abbas <abas_amin08@...> >> >To: [email protected] >> >Sent: Saturday, July 7, 2012 11:46 AM >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: BBC: Mali militants (Ah, Abbas Amin mau belajar >> >dari al ustadz item abu >> > >> > >> > >> >ah di qur_an depag tak disebutkan mengenai anak ingusan tuh; malah yang >> >menopause. Apa buat kamu Bil si anak ingusan = menopause ?! >> >please make it clear. >> > >> >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: >> >> >> >> 065.004 >> >> YUSUFALI: Such of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, >> >> for them the prescribed period, if ye have any doubts, is three months, >> >> and for those who have no courses (it is the same): for those who carry >> >> (life within their wombs), their period is until they deliver their >> >> burdens: and for those who fear Allah, He will make their path easy. >> >> >> >> >> >> Goblok, di 65:4 itu disebutkan 2 jenis cewek, cewek yg udah menopause dan >> >> cewek yg belum mens. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >________________________________ >> >> > From: Abbas <abas_amin08@> >> >> >To: [email protected] >> >> >Sent: Saturday, July 7, 2012 7:26 AM >> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: BBC: Mali militants (Ah, Abbas Amin mau >> >> >belajar dari al ustadz item abu >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >Hahahaha ! dasar goblok bin dungu ! si Jusfiq pedundu ini !Qur_an surat >> >> >33 ayat 49 adalah mengenaai perempuan biaasa saja; bukan anak balita ! >> >> > >> >> >Lebih ngawur lagi si Jusfiq pwdundu dengan surat 65 ayat 4 : Itu justru >> >> >untuk perempuan yang sudah sangat tua ! >> >> > >> >> >Goblok ! Goblok ! >> >> >kamu menunjukkan ayaat yang salah pedundu ! >> >> >Coba kalau ngebela si Debit Item IDIOT abu itu yang tepat Jusfiq Pedundu >> >> >jangan asal2an ! kan malu maluin seluruh kelompok ANTI ISLAM !? >> >> >Goblok bukan ? >> >> >Ini adalah akibat otak Jusfiq sudah keraacunan buku shalmaan Rushdy dan >> >> >dawkins. Jadi BUSUk dan tak berfungsi lagi. >> >> > >> >> >--- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Ah, Abbas Amin yang dungu kayak anjing katanya mau belajar dari al >> >> >> ustadz item abu tentang ayat khurafah najis mengenai "anak dibawah >> >> >> umur boleh diembat".. >> >> >> >> >> >> Pertanda Abbas Amin ini emang dungu kayak anjing, karena item abu (dan >> >> >> juga Si Kebenaran) sudah menunjukkan ayatnya (lebih dari sekali). >> >> >> >> >> >> Ayatnya adalah QS 33:49 dan QS 65:4 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --- In [email protected], "Abbas" <abas_amin08@> wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Bil, daripada kamu ngomong ngaco terus, coba sebutkan ayatnya ? yang >> >> >> > mengatakan bahwa anak dibawah umur boleh diembat !? >> >> >> > saya ingin belajar dari kamu ! coba ! >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > Nabi jg doyan ngembat anak ingusan, jadi ga heran kalo pejihad di >> >> >> > > jalan auloh jg suka melakukannya. Dan emang auloh ngehalalin >> >> >> > > ngembat anak ingusan di Quran. >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >________________________________ >> >> >> > > > From: Bukan Pedanda <bukan.pedanda@> >> >> >> > > >To: [email protected] >> >> >> > > >Sent: Saturday, July 7, 2012 3:23 AM >> >> >> > > >Subject: [proletar] BBC: Mali militants recruit and abuse >> >> >> > > >children, says Unicef >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > >BBC News Africa >> >> >> > > >6 July 2012 Last updated at 16:19 GMT >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > >Mali militants recruit and abuse children, says Unicef >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > >Children are being sexually abused and are being recruited to >> >> >> > > >fight for armed groups in Mali, according to the UN. >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > >Unicef, the UN children's fund, said that Islamist militants in >> >> >> > > >the north of the country had forcibly recruited at least 175 boys >> >> >> > > >aged 12-18. >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > >Unicef said it had collected evidence that also indicated the >> >> >> > > >groups had raped and sexually abused girls. >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > >A military coup in Mali in March 2012 allowed Islamist militants >> >> >> > > >to take control of the north of the country. >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > >The UN Security Council said on Thursday it was not ready to back >> >> >> > > >a West African intervention force in northern Mali, but instead >> >> >> > > >passed a resolution calling for sanctions against the groups. >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > >Unicef said as well as abuse and the use of children as fighters, >> >> >> > > >children have also been killed and maimed by landmines and other >> >> >> > > >ordnance. >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > >It went on to say that about 300,000 children have been affected >> >> >> > > >by the closure of schools in unstable areas. >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > >Since rebels took control of the north of Mali, many children >> >> >> > > >have been living in camps where they face food shortages, Unicef >> >> >> > > >said. >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > >The UN said the information they had presented was only a partial >> >> >> > > >picture, however, as it was too dangerous to undertake proper >> >> >> > > >research in northern Mali. >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > >Unicef said it was working with partners in certain areas of the >> >> >> > > >country in an attempt to help communities to protect children. >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > >"Children in the north are witnessing or becoming victims of >> >> >> > > >violence and they must be protected," said Theophane Nikyema, >> >> >> > > >Unicef's Mali representative. >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > >The ongoing conflict in Mali has seen mosques and shrines in the >> >> >> > > >historic city of Timbuktu attacked in recent weeks by militants. >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > >Ansar Dine, a group said to have links to al-Qaeda, said it had >> >> >> > > >an objective of destroying all mausoleums that were not in line >> >> >> > > >with Islamic law. >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > >The group seized control of Timbuktu in April. >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > >BBC >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > >BBC © 2012 The BBC is not responsible for the content of >> >> >> > > >external sites. 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