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--- In [email protected], "muskitawati" <muskitawati@...> wrote: > > Mau di-puter2 kemanapun, Einstein tidak percaya Tuhan, dan Einstein juga > tidak percaya Allah, Einstein keturunan Yahudi yang tidak tidak melaksanakan > ibadah agamanya. > > Dan yang paling penting yang jarang ditulis oleh kelompok agama adalah, saat2 > akhir Einstein adalah dipenjara karena dituduh membunuh teman sejawatnya dan > juga dituduh agen komunis Russia. Dia mati di penjara. Namun menurut berita > resmi pemerintah Amerika, Einstein dibawa kerumah sakit sebelum mati, dan dia > mati di Rumah sakit kemudian sebelum dikuburkan keluarganya meminta kasusnya > dicabut dan namanya di rehabilitasi. > > Karena nama dan reputasi Einstein sangat terkenal didunia, maka pemerintah > Amerika mengabulkan usul tsb, kemudian nama Einstein direhabilitasi sehingga > nama Einstein ikut mengharumkan negara Amerika ini. > > Einstein sendiri kelahiran Yahudi Jerman, bekerja di lab bomb H di Jerman > sebelum pindah dan menjadi warganegara Amerika. Setelah bekerja di Amerika, > Einstein tetap berhubungan akrab dengan sejawat2nya di Jerman, Russia yang > sebelumnya adalah sama2 kolega satu kantor di Jerman. > > Einstein keluar dari Jerman dengan baik2, jadi hubungan baik dengan agen > Jerman, Amerika dan Russia memang tidak bisa dihindari. > > Ny. Muslim binti Muskitawati. > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "pinpinyuliansyah" <pinpinyuliansyah@> wrote: > > > > Jadi di sini ke KOPLOK an elo plik ... > > Baca pelan pelan ... > > > > "The WORD GOD is for me Nothing More Than the expression and product of > > human weaknesses," > > > > Baca sekali lagi plok ! > > > > Kata TUHAN bagi sayah ... kagak lebih dari ekspresi dan produk kelemahan > > manusia ... > > > > BEDA kalau einstein nulis : > > "GOD is for me Nothing More Than the expression and product of human > > weaknesses," > > > > Jadi, ... Kata "The WORD GOD ( Bukan "God" )is for me Nothing More Than the > > expression and product of human weaknesses," sejalan dengan kata - kata > > einstein yang ini ni .. > > > > http://www.deism.com/einstein.htm > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Jadi, agnostisme itu: > > > > > > "The view that the existence of God or of all deities is unknown, > > > unknowable, unproven, or unprovable." > > > > > > Sedangkan Einstein berkata: "The word God is for me nothing more than the > > > expression and product of human weaknesses," > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "pinpinyuliansyah" <pinpinyuliansyah@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Ni Baca Plik ... > > > > > > > > http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/agnosticism > > > > > > > > Bandingkan dengan konsep Islam ... > > > > > > > > Tuhan - tuhan itu kagak ade ! > > > > Yang ade itu cuma al-illah > > > > Al-Illah ? > > > > is unknown, unknowable, unproven, or unprovable. ! > > > > > > > > Cocok pan ? > > > > > > > > Makanya jadi orang Mosti cerdas Plik ... ;-) > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pinpin yang sedeng menulis: > > > > > > > > > > "Aghnostic orang yang tidak percaya apa yang dikatakan oleh agama, > > > > > tapi dia percaya adanya Tuhan . > > > > > " > > > > > > > > > > Nih baca: > > > > > > > > > > http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/agnostic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "pinpinyuliansyah" > > > > > <pinpinyuliansyah@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Aghnostic orang yang tidak percaya apa yang dikatakan oleh agama, > > > > > > tapi dia percaya adanya Tuhan . > > > > > > > > > > > > hal ini jadinya masuk akal, . Kita manusia hanya bisa menebak nebak > > > > > > saja. Tidak ada yang menjamin kebenaran agama 100%, kecuali tentu > > > > > > saja, oleh penganut agama itu sendiri :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Kalau Tuhan dianggap tidak ada, kok ada saya ?. Kalau dianggap ada, > > > > > > terus bagaimana membuktikannya ? > > > > > > > > > > > > "Aku tidak menganggap bahwa disebut agnostic adalah hinaan, tetapi > > > > > > itu lebih merupakan pujian. Aku tidak berpura-pura tahu ketika > > > > > > banyak orang yang tidak tahu justru yakin." (Clarence Darrow (1857 > > > > > > 1938)) > > > > > > > > > > > > "Aku percaya bahwa kebahagiaan adalah satu-satunya hal baik, dan > > > > > > cara untuk bisa bahagia adalah membuat orang lain bahagia " (Robert > > > > > > Green Ingersoll (1833-1899).) > > > > > > > > > > > > Para agnostic mengatakan, bahwa agnostic adalah pilihan paling > > > > > > logis daripada Teis ataupun Ateis. Karena mereka menganggap ajaran > > > > > > Teis ( agama ) adalah sesuatu yang tidak logis. Ajaran tersebut > > > > > > cenderung dipergunakan untuk kepentingan kelompok kelompok. > > > > > > Susahnya lagi, Teis kalau dikritik, malah ngamuk. Kadang diantara > > > > > > orang beragama menggunakan agamanya untuk men justifikasi ( > > > > > > memberikan cap ) orang orang yang tak sepaham atau orang yang tak > > > > > > disukai. Tentu saja justifikasi yang mereka berikan pasti nama > > > > > > jelek, atau menjelekan. Bukankah itu sama dengan fitnah ?, > > > > > > meng-atas namakan agama. Misalnya, bid'ah, kafir, murtad dsb. Jadi > > > > > > untuk apa ribet ribet menggunakan aturan aturan agama kalau pada > > > > > > akhirnya kita meng kafirkan dan memusuhi orang lain ? Kenyataanya > > > > > > memang itulah yang terjadi, banyak orang beragama membuat orang > > > > > > lain menjadi bisa dijauhi orang lainnya, berimbas pada pergaulan > > > > > > sosialnya, kondisi kehidupan orang tersebut menjadi terhambat. > > > > > > Hanya karena kata kata ( fatwa ) sang tokoh agama. Kalau sudah > > > > > > begitu , siapakah yang layak masuk neraka ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], ayub yahya <ayubyahya@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pig... Einstein tuh agnostik, percaya adanya tuhan tapi "tuhan > > > > > > > yang tidak sebatas seperti > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yang tertulis di alkitab ato al-quran" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oleh einstein, tuhan disebutkan sebagai 'kekuatan misterius' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > baca nih ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We see the universe marvelously arranged and obeying certain laws > > > > > > > but only dimly understand these laws. Our limited minds grasp the > > > > > > > mysterious force that moves the constellations." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > themysterious force bebas aja di tafsirkan.... boleh faktor X, > > > > > > > boleh god, boleh allah, boleh tuhan, > > > > > > > boleh dewa... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > From: Bukan Pedanda <bukan.pedanda@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sedeng... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yang kudu dipegagn itu fikirannya yang sudah mateng, yang > > > > > > > ditulisnya dengan tangannnya sendiri dan bukan omongannnya ketika > > > > > > > dia masih mencari-cari jawaban atau kutipan yang tidak bersumber > > > > > > > dari tulisan tangannnya sendiri.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terlepas dari itu: buat dia semua agama itu cuman takhayul doang.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "pinpinyuliansyah" > > > > > > > <pinpinyuliansyah@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Albert Einstein and Religion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (The following quotes are taken from The Quotable Einstein, > > > > > > > > Princeton University Press unless otherwise noted) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable > > > > > > > > superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we > > > > > > > > are able to perceive with our frail and feeble minds. That > > > > > > > > deeply emotional conviction of the presence of a superior > > > > > > > > reasoning power, which is revealed in the incomprehensible > > > > > > > > universe, forms my idea of God." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (The following is from Einstein and Religion by Max Jammer, > > > > > > > > Princeton University Press) > > > > > > > > "I'm not an atheist, and I don't think I can call myself a > > > > > > > > pantheist. We are in the position of a little child entering a > > > > > > > > huge library filled with books in many languages. The child > > > > > > > > knows someone must have written those books. It does not know > > > > > > > > how. It does not understand the languages in which they are > > > > > > > > written. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the > > > > > > > > arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it > > > > > > > > seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human > > > > > > > > being toward God. We see the universe marvelously arranged and > > > > > > > > obeying certain laws but only dimly understand these laws. Our > > > > > > > > limited minds grasp the mysterious force that moves the > > > > > > > > constellations." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (The following is from The Quotable Einstein) > > > > > > > > "Thus I came...to a deep religiosity, which, however, reached > > > > > > > > an abrupt end at the age of 12. Through the reading of popular > > > > > > > > scientific books I soon reached a conviction that much in the > > > > > > > > stories of the Bible could not be true....Suspicion against > > > > > > > > every kind of authority grew out of this experience...an > > > > > > > > attitude which has never left me." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "I don't try to imagine a God; it suffices to stand in awe of > > > > > > > > the structure of the world, insofar as it allows our inadequate > > > > > > > > senses to appreciate it." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is > > > > > > > > blind." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of > > > > > > > > his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own - a God, > > > > > > > > in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. It is > > > > > > > > enough for me to contemplate the mystery of conscious life > > > > > > > > perpetuating itself through all eternity, to reflect upon the > > > > > > > > marvelous structure of the universe which we can dimly perceive > > > > > > > > and to try humbly to comprehend even an infinitesimal part of > > > > > > > > the intelligence manifested in Nature." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The scientist is possessed by the sense of universal > > > > > > > > causation. His religious feeling takes the form of a rapturous > > > > > > > > amazement at the harmony of natural law, which reveals an > > > > > > > > intelligence of such superiority that , compared with it, all > > > > > > > > the systematic thinking and acting of human beings is an > > > > > > > > utterly insignificant reflection." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ". . . In spite of all this, I don't let a single opportunity > > > > > > > > pass unheeded, nor have I lost my sense of humor. When God > > > > > > > > created the ass he gave him a thick skin." Einstein: The Life > > > > > > > > and Times by Ronald W. Clark, Avon Books. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Where dull-witted clansmen of our tribe were praying aloud, > > > > > > > > their faces turned to the wall, their bodies swaying to and > > > > > > > > fro. A pathetic sight of men with a past but without a future." > > > > > > > > (Regarding his visit to the Wailing Wall in Jerusalem, February > > > > > > > > 3, 1923) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Should we be unable to find a way to honest cooperation and > > > > > > > > honest pacts with the Arabs, then we have learned absolutely > > > > > > > > nothing during our 2,000 years of suffering and deserve all > > > > > > > > that will come to us." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "I appeal to all men and women, whether they be eminent or > > > > > > > > humble, to declare that they will refuse to give any further > > > > > > > > assistance to war or the preparation of war." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "It is my belief that the problem of bringing peace to the > > > > > > > > world on a supranational basis will be solved only by employing > > > > > > > > Gandhi's method on a larger scale." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The following is from Elsa Einstein, Albert Einstein's wife, > > > > > > > > regarding Einstein's development of the theory of general > > > > > > > > relativity. It's taken from the outstanding book Einstein and > > > > > > > > Religion by Max Jammer. It's originally taken from Charles > > > > > > > > Chaplin's autobiography and widely quoted in journals, bios and > > > > > > > > even as the conference calls for papers about Einstein's most > > > > > > > > famous theory. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Doctor came down in his dressing gown as usual for > > > > > > > > breakfast but he hardly touched a thing. I thought something > > > > > > > > was wrong, so I asked what was troubling him. "Darling," he > > > > > > > > said, "I have a wonderful idea." And after drinking his coffee, > > > > > > > > he went to the piano and started playing. Now and again he > > > > > > > > would stop, making a few notes then repeat: "I've got a > > > > > > > > wonderful idea, a marvelous idea!" I said: "Then for goodness' > > > > > > > > sake tell me what it is, don't keep me in suspense." He said: > > > > > > > > "It's difficult, I still have to work it out." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > She told me he continued playing the piano and making notes for > > > > > > > > about half an hour, then went upstairs to his study, telling > > > > > > > > her that he did not wish to be disturbed, and remained there > > > > > > > > for two weeks. "Each day I sent him up his meals," she said, > > > > > > > > "and in the evening he would walk a little for exercise, then > > > > > > > > return to his work again. Eventually," she said, "he came down > > > > > > > > from his study looking very pale. "That's it," he told me, > > > > > > > > wearily putting two sheets of paper on the table. And that was > > > > > > > > his theory of relativity." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" > > > > > > > > <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sedeng... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Begitu jelas dia bilang "The word God is for me nothing more > > > > > > > > > than the expression and product of human weaknesses," > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "pinpinyuliansyah" > > > > > > > > > <pinpinyuliansyah@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Einstein Itu Deism Plik ... Bukan Atheism ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Coba tengok ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "I don't try to imagine a God; it suffices to stand in awe > > > > > > > > > > of the structure of the world, insofar as it allows our > > > > > > > > > > inadequate senses to appreciate it." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Science without religion is lame, religion without science > > > > > > > > > > is blind." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Baca di sini .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.deism.com/einstein.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The following is from Elsa Einstein, Albert Einstein's > > > > > > > > > > wife, regarding Einstein's development of the theory of > > > > > > > > > > general relativity. It's taken from the outstanding book > > > > > > > > > > Einstein and Religion by Max Jammer. It's originally taken > > > > > > > > > > from Charles Chaplin's autobiography and widely quoted in > > > > > > > > > > journals, bios and even as the conference calls for papers > > > > > > > > > > about Einstein's most famous theory. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" > > > > > > > > > > <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jadi Einstein itu bilang semua agama itu cuman takhayul > > > > > > > > > > > doang... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan yang ngomong itu bukan orang sedeng munafik, tukang > > > > > > > > > > > fitnah dan tukang nyabo kayak suryana, tapi orang > > > > > > > > > > > pinter... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agar jelas: omongan Einstein itu layak direnungkan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Selanjutnya saya kutip pendapat Hawking: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "When Sawyer asked if there was a way to reconcile > > > > > > > > > > > religion and science, Hawking said, "There is a > > > > > > > > > > > fundamental difference between religion, which is based > > > > > > > > > > > on authority, [and] science, which is based on > > > > > > > > > > > observation and reason. Science will win because it > > > > > > > > > > > works." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://abcnews.go.com/WN/Technology/stephen-hawking-religion-science-win/story?id=10830164#.UHkEffcTmSo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "suryana" <gsuryana@> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hehehe bloon surat Einstein pada dasarnya masih ambigu, > > > > > > > > > > > > sayang pengertian > > > > > > > > > > > > ambigu tidak bisa dimengerti. > > > > > > > > > > > > Einstein ingin atheis, siapa yg melarang ?, apa karena > > > > > > > > > > > > jenius maka harus > > > > > > > > > > > > jadi atheis, lha disini ada binatang yg otaknya di > > > > > > > > > > > > peler, boro boro jenius, > > > > > > > > > > > > jauh panggang dari api. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yg menjadi pointku mengirim bukan karena isi suratnya, > > > > > > > > > > > > melainkan koq ada > > > > > > > > > > > > orang mau beli surat tsb dengan harga yg bisa dibelikan > > > > > > > > > > > > sikat gigi elektrik > > > > > > > > > > > > dan jam tangan ber gps masing masing puluhan kontainer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "muskitawati" <muskitawati@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jadi semua orang2 tua yang ingin anaknya seperti > > > > > > > > > > > > > Einstein agar menjauhkan > > > > > > > > > > > > > racun2 yang merusak otak anaknya tentang klenik2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > penyembahan Allah, Tuhan, > > > > > > > > > > > > > dewa dewi, dan mistik2 lainnya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hal ini terutama sangat penting bagi umat Islam dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > mereka yang hidup > > > > > > > > > > > > > dalam lingkungan yang Islam. Karena kerusakan otak > > > > > > > > > > > > > ini bukan hanya > > > > > > > > > > > > > menyangkut dirinya melainkan juga bangsa dan negara > > > > > > > > > > > > > ini. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ny. Muslim binti Muskitawati. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ei > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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