Pinpin yang sedeng menulis: "Aghnostic orang yang tidak percaya apa yang dikatakan oleh agama, tapi dia percaya adanya Tuhan . "
Nih baca: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/agnostic --- In [email protected], "pinpinyuliansyah" <pinpinyuliansyah@...> wrote: > > Aghnostic orang yang tidak percaya apa yang dikatakan oleh agama, tapi dia > percaya adanya Tuhan . > > hal ini jadinya masuk akal, . Kita manusia hanya bisa menebak nebak saja. > Tidak ada yang menjamin kebenaran agama 100%, kecuali tentu saja, oleh > penganut agama itu sendiri :-) > > Kalau Tuhan dianggap tidak ada, kok ada saya ?. Kalau dianggap ada, terus > bagaimana membuktikannya ? > > "Aku tidak menganggap bahwa disebut agnostic adalah hinaan, tetapi itu lebih > merupakan pujian. Aku tidak berpura-pura tahu ketika banyak orang yang tidak > tahu justru yakin." (Clarence Darrow (1857 1938)) > > "Aku percaya bahwa kebahagiaan adalah satu-satunya hal baik, dan cara untuk > bisa bahagia adalah membuat orang lain bahagia " (Robert Green Ingersoll > (1833-1899).) > > Para agnostic mengatakan, bahwa agnostic adalah pilihan paling logis daripada > Teis ataupun Ateis. Karena mereka menganggap ajaran Teis ( agama ) adalah > sesuatu yang tidak logis. Ajaran tersebut cenderung dipergunakan untuk > kepentingan kelompok kelompok. Susahnya lagi, Teis kalau dikritik, malah > ngamuk. Kadang diantara orang beragama menggunakan agamanya untuk men > justifikasi ( memberikan cap ) orang orang yang tak sepaham atau orang yang > tak disukai. Tentu saja justifikasi yang mereka berikan pasti nama jelek, > atau menjelekan. Bukankah itu sama dengan fitnah ?, meng-atas namakan agama. > Misalnya, bid'ah, kafir, murtad dsb. Jadi untuk apa ribet ribet menggunakan > aturan aturan agama kalau pada akhirnya kita meng kafirkan dan memusuhi orang > lain ? Kenyataanya memang itulah yang terjadi, banyak orang beragama membuat > orang lain menjadi bisa dijauhi orang lainnya, berimbas pada pergaulan > sosialnya, kondisi kehidupan orang tersebut menjadi terhambat. Hanya karena > kata kata ( fatwa ) sang tokoh agama. Kalau sudah begitu , siapakah yang > layak masuk neraka ? > > > > > > --- In [email protected], ayub yahya <ayubyahya@> wrote: > > > > pig... Einstein tuh agnostik, percaya adanya tuhan tapi "tuhan yang tidak > > sebatas seperti > > > > yang tertulis di alkitab ato al-quran" > > > > > > oleh einstein, tuhan disebutkan sebagai 'kekuatan misterius' > > > > baca nih ... > > > > We see the universe marvelously arranged and obeying certain laws but only > > dimly understand these laws. Our limited minds grasp the mysterious force > > that moves the constellations." > > > > > > themysterious force bebas aja di tafsirkan.... boleh faktor X, boleh god, > > boleh allah, boleh tuhan, > > boleh dewa... > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Bukan Pedanda <bukan.pedanda@> > > > > > > > > Sedeng... > > > > Yang kudu dipegagn itu fikirannya yang sudah mateng, yang ditulisnya dengan > > tangannnya sendiri dan bukan omongannnya ketika dia masih mencari-cari > > jawaban atau kutipan yang tidak bersumber dari tulisan tangannnya > > sendiri.... > > > > Terlepas dari itu: buat dia semua agama itu cuman takhayul doang.. > > > > --- In [email protected], "pinpinyuliansyah" <pinpinyuliansyah@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Albert Einstein and Religion > > > > > > (The following quotes are taken from The Quotable Einstein, Princeton > > > University Press unless otherwise noted) > > > > > > "My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior > > > spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive > > > with our frail and feeble minds. That deeply emotional conviction of the > > > presence of a superior reasoning power, which is revealed in the > > > incomprehensible universe, forms my idea of God." > > > > > > (The following is from Einstein and Religion by Max Jammer, Princeton > > > University Press) > > > "I'm not an atheist, and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. We > > > are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with > > > books in many languages. The child knows someone must have written those > > > books. It does not know how. It does not understand the languages in > > > which they are written. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in > > > the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems > > > to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward > > > God. We see the universe marvelously arranged and obeying certain laws > > > but only dimly understand these laws. Our limited minds grasp the > > > mysterious force that moves the constellations." > > > > > > > > > (The following is from The Quotable Einstein) > > > "Thus I came...to a deep religiosity, which, however, reached an abrupt > > > end at the age of 12. Through the reading of popular scientific books I > > > soon reached a conviction that much in the stories of the Bible could not > > > be true....Suspicion against every kind of authority grew out of this > > > experience...an attitude which has never left me." > > > > > > "I don't try to imagine a God; it suffices to stand in awe of the > > > structure of the world, insofar as it allows our inadequate senses to > > > appreciate it." > > > > > > "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." > > > > > > "I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his > > > creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own - a God, in short, who > > > is but a reflection of human frailty. It is enough for me to contemplate > > > the mystery of conscious life perpetuating itself through all eternity, > > > to reflect upon the marvelous structure of the universe which we can > > > dimly perceive and to try humbly to comprehend even an infinitesimal part > > > of the intelligence manifested in Nature." > > > > > > "The scientist is possessed by the sense of universal causation. His > > > religious feeling takes the form of a rapturous amazement at the harmony > > > of natural law, which reveals an intelligence of such superiority that , > > > compared with it, all the systematic thinking and acting of human beings > > > is an utterly insignificant reflection." > > > > > > ". . . In spite of all this, I don't let a single opportunity pass > > > unheeded, nor have I lost my sense of humor. When God created the ass he > > > gave him a thick skin." Einstein: The Life and Times by Ronald W. Clark, > > > Avon Books. > > > > > > "Where dull-witted clansmen of our tribe were praying aloud, their faces > > > turned to the wall, their bodies swaying to and fro. A pathetic sight of > > > men with a past but without a future." (Regarding his visit to the > > > Wailing Wall in Jerusalem, February 3, 1923) > > > > > > "Should we be unable to find a way to honest cooperation and honest pacts > > > with the Arabs, then we have learned absolutely nothing during our 2,000 > > > years of suffering and deserve all that will come to us." > > > > > > "I appeal to all men and women, whether they be eminent or humble, to > > > declare that they will refuse to give any further assistance to war or > > > the preparation of war." > > > > > > "It is my belief that the problem of bringing peace to the world on a > > > supranational basis will be solved only by employing Gandhi's method on a > > > larger scale." > > > > > > > > > The following is from Elsa Einstein, Albert Einstein's wife, regarding > > > Einstein's development of the theory of general relativity. It's taken > > > from the outstanding book Einstein and Religion by Max Jammer. It's > > > originally taken from Charles Chaplin's autobiography and widely quoted > > > in journals, bios and even as the conference calls for papers about > > > Einstein's most famous theory. > > > > > > The Doctor came down in his dressing gown as usual for breakfast but he > > > hardly touched a thing. I thought something was wrong, so I asked what > > > was troubling him. "Darling," he said, "I have a wonderful idea." And > > > after drinking his coffee, he went to the piano and started playing. Now > > > and again he would stop, making a few notes then repeat: "I've got a > > > wonderful idea, a marvelous idea!" I said: "Then for goodness' sake tell > > > me what it is, don't keep me in suspense." He said: "It's difficult, I > > > still have to work it out." > > > > > > She told me he continued playing the piano and making notes for about > > > half an hour, then went upstairs to his study, telling her that he did > > > not wish to be disturbed, and remained there for two weeks. "Each day I > > > sent him up his meals," she said, "and in the evening he would walk a > > > little for exercise, then return to his work again. Eventually," she > > > said, "he came down from his study looking very pale. "That's it," he > > > told me, wearily putting two sheets of paper on the table. And that was > > > his theory of relativity." > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Sedeng... > > > > > > > > Begitu jelas dia bilang "The word God is for me nothing more than the > > > > expression and product of human weaknesses," > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "pinpinyuliansyah" <pinpinyuliansyah@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Einstein Itu Deism Plik ... Bukan Atheism ... > > > > > > > > > > Coba tengok ... > > > > > > > > > > "I don't try to imagine a God; it suffices to stand in awe of the > > > > > structure of the world, insofar as it allows our inadequate senses to > > > > > appreciate it." > > > > > > > > > > "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." > > > > > > > > > > Baca di sini .. > > > > > > > > > > http://www.deism.com/einstein.htm > > > > > > > > > > The following is from Elsa Einstein, Albert Einstein's wife, > > > > > regarding Einstein's development of the theory of general relativity. > > > > > It's taken from the outstanding book Einstein and Religion by Max > > > > > Jammer. It's originally taken from Charles Chaplin's autobiography > > > > > and widely quoted in journals, bios and even as the conference calls > > > > > for papers about Einstein's most famous theory. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jadi Einstein itu bilang semua agama itu cuman takhayul doang... > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan yang ngomong itu bukan orang sedeng munafik, tukang fitnah dan > > > > > > tukang nyabo kayak suryana, tapi orang pinter... > > > > > > > > > > > > Agar jelas: omongan Einstein itu layak direnungkan. > > > > > > > > > > > > Selanjutnya saya kutip pendapat Hawking: > > > > > > > > > > > > "When Sawyer asked if there was a way to reconcile religion and > > > > > > science, Hawking said, "There is a fundamental difference between > > > > > > religion, which is based on authority, [and] science, which is > > > > > > based on observation and reason. Science will win because it > > > > > > works." > > > > > > > > > > > > http://abcnews.go.com/WN/Technology/stephen-hawking-religion-science-win/story?id=10830164#.UHkEffcTmSo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "suryana" <gsuryana@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hehehe bloon surat Einstein pada dasarnya masih ambigu, sayang > > > > > > > pengertian > > > > > > > ambigu tidak bisa dimengerti. > > > > > > > Einstein ingin atheis, siapa yg melarang ?, apa karena jenius > > > > > > > maka harus > > > > > > > jadi atheis, lha disini ada binatang yg otaknya di peler, boro > > > > > > > boro jenius, > > > > > > > jauh panggang dari api. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yg menjadi pointku mengirim bukan karena isi suratnya, melainkan > > > > > > > koq ada > > > > > > > orang mau beli surat tsb dengan harga yg bisa dibelikan sikat > > > > > > > gigi elektrik > > > > > > > dan jam tangan ber gps masing masing puluhan kontainer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: "muskitawati" <muskitawati@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jadi semua orang2 tua yang ingin anaknya seperti Einstein agar > > > > > > > > menjauhkan > > > > > > > > racun2 yang merusak otak anaknya tentang klenik2 penyembahan > > > > > > > > Allah, Tuhan, > > > > > > > > dewa dewi, dan mistik2 lainnya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hal ini terutama sangat penting bagi umat Islam dan mereka yang > > > > > > > > hidup > > > > > > > > dalam lingkungan yang Islam. Karena kerusakan otak ini bukan > > > > > > > > hanya > > > > > > > > menyangkut dirinya melainkan juga bangsa dan negara ini. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ny. Muslim binti Muskitawati. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ei > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! 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