Item abu sudah sering bilang bahwa Islam itu memang tidak mengenal golden rule... Dan tahun 2005 sudah ada yang ngirim ini:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/message/174859 --- In [email protected], "Nub" wrote: > > kayanya bener islam satu2nya agama yg tidak mengajarkan golden rule. > heck, i bet most of them dont even know what golden rule is. > > Islam and the Golden Rule > by Ali Sina > > 30 May, 2009 > > From faithfreedom.org: > > Our friend Robert Spencer of Jihad Watch, the indefatigable defender of > the Western civilization, send me the following email and asked me to > answer to the criticism of a Muslim to an article that I wrote four > years ago on the incompatibility of Islam and the Golden Rule. Here is > this Muslim's rebuttal and my response to him. > > Recently I came across an attack on your piece on Islam and the Golden > Rule. These passages below were cited in refutation. Any guidance you > can give me on responding to this would be greatly appreciated. > > Islamic Text on the Golden Rule: > > The Quran: > > "Serve God, and join not any partners with Him; and do good - to > parents, kinsfolk, orphans, those in need, neighbors who are near, > neighbors who are strangers, the companion by your side, the wayfarer > (ye meet), and what your right hands possess [the slave]: For God loveth > not the arrogant, the vainglorious" (Q:4:36) > > (In fact the Quran goes beyond saying the Golden Rule by stating in more > than four places that "Return evil with Kindness." (13:22, > 23:96, 41:34, 28:54, 42:40) > > Prophet Muhammad (pbuh): > > "None of you have faith until you love for your neighbor what you > love for yourself" (Sahih Muslim) > > "Whoever wishes to be delivered from the fire and to enter > Paradise should treat the people as he wishes to be treated." > (Sahih Muslim) > > "None of you truly believes until he wishes for his brother what he > wishes for himself" (Forty Hadith-Nawawi) > > "None of you is a believer if he eats his full while his neighbour > hasn't anything." (Musnad) > > "Do unto all men as you would wish to have done unto you; and reject > for others what you would reject for yourselves." (Abu Dawud) > > "Hurt no one so that no one may hurt you." (Farewell Sermon) > > "There should be neither harming nor reciprocating harm." (Ibn- > Majah) > > > > Hello Robert, > > The Quran is a book of double standards. Indeed, there are exhortations > to Muslims to be kind to the poor, the traveler, the orphan and the > sick. This is to be expected. If you want to start a religion you must > preach something good or you'd not find anyone to believe you. You > cannot preach only evil. In order to attract followers you must teach > things that people like and can easily identify as good. Once they > accept you as a prophet, guru or their spiritual guide, then you can do > whatever you want and get away with it. > > The difference between a true spiritual teacher and a conman is in their > consistency. There are several teachings of Muhammad that can be > compared to those of Jesus, but the teachings of Jesus are consistent > while those of Muhammad are not. Even a criminal can give you good > advises, this does not mean this criminal is a good person. > > When I was young there was a radio show in Iran called A City within Our > City. Every week the producer would interview a prison inmate on death > roll and the criminal would tell the story of his life and what brought > him to crime. At the end of the program the producer would ask, whether > the criminal had any advice for young people. These criminals often had > the best advises. They knew exactly the difference between right and > wrong. I recall thinking, if only someone complied the advices of these > criminals he could write the best book of guidance. Good words are dime > a dozen. If they are not accompanied by good actions they are worthless. > In fact the difference between a great man and a conman is in how much > their words and deeds differ. Even Obama came to power by giving good > talks. His entire life however was filled with crime and chicanery. > Demagogy is the domain of all charlatans and they are good at it. > > We find similar good exhortations in the teachings of Jim Jones who > actually based his religion on "social justice". He even adopted > children from many races to set the example. > > The problem with the good teachings of Muhammad is that they are > reserved for fellow Muslims. When the hadith says, "None of you > [truly] believes until he wishes for his brother what he wishes for > himself,."it is talking about the fellow Muslims. > > The brotherhood in Islam does not extend to everyone. The Quran (9:23 > ) states that > the believers should not take for friends and protectors (awlia) their > fathers and brothers if they love Infidelity above Islam. In fact there > are many verses that tell the Muslims to kill the unbelievers and be > harsh to them. A clear example that Islam is not based on the Golden > Rule is the verse (48:29) > : "Muhammad > is the messenger of Allah; and those who are with him are strong against > Unbelievers, (but) compassionate amongst each other." This is the > perfect definition of fascism. > > There are many other verses that show the brotherhood in Islam is not > universal. The non believers have no rights and should not be treated in > the same way that Muslims are to be treated. The entire Quran is a > breach of the Golden Rule. The Quran tells Muslims to slay the > unbelievers wherever they find them (2:191 > ), do not > befriend them (3:28 > ), fight them > and show them harshness (9:123 > ), smite their > heads (47:4 ), > etc. Are these verses compatible with the Golden Rule? > > Islam is the only doctrine, that calls upon its believers to do evil to > others for the simple fact that they are not believers. > > According to Muslims it is not the Golden Rule that defines the good and > bad, it is Muhammad who does it. They believe that what is good for > Islam is the highest virtue and what is bad for Islam is the ultimate > evil. This is the definition of good and evil in Islam. This is the > ethos of all cults. From Asahara's "Aum Shinrikyo" to Jim > Jones' "People's Temple"; from Sun Myung Moon's > "Unification Chruch" to David Koresh's "Davidian > Branch", the recurring theme is that the cult's interests > override the human understanding of right and wrong. In order to advance > the interest of the cult, which is regarded as the ultimate good, > everything, including lying, and even murder and assassination are > permissible. The end is deemed to be so lofty that it justifies the > means. This is the same idea of fascism where the glorification of the > state and the total subordination of the individual to it are enforced. > > None of the verse quoted above have anything to do with the Golden Rule. > > Verse 13:22 tells the believers to be patient and generous with their > money. This is what all cults demand from their followers. The more > sacrifice the cultist make the more he or she can be manipulated. Verse > 23:96 asks Muslims to repel evil, whereas the definition of evil for > Muhammad was contradicting him. Verse 41:34 is a Meccan verse where > Muhammad and his followers were the underdogs and here he preached > patience and said repel evil with good so your enemy becomes as friend. > Could he have done anything else? These orders changed when Muhammad > came to power. In Medina Muhammad banished and massacred entire > populations just because he suspected that they may not be friendly to > him. 28:54 is a repetition of 23:96 and 42:40 says whoever forgives and > amends, he shall have his reward from Allah. However, Muhammad never > forgave those who mocked him. As for Muhammad's unforgiving nature > it is enough to recall the fate of Oqba the man who when Muhammad was in > Mecca used to mock him and when he was captured in the Battle of Badr, > Muhammad ordered his decapitation. He ventured to expostulate, and > demand why he should be treated more vigorously than the other captives > who were kept for ransom. `Because of your enmity to God and to his > Prophet,' replied Muhammad. `And my little girl!' cried > Oqba, in the bitterness of his soul, `Who will take care of > her?' `Hellfire!' exclaimed the heartless conqueror; > and on the instant his victim was hewn to the ground. `Wretch that > he was!' continued Muhammad, `and persecutor! Unbeliever in > God, in his Prophet, and in his Book! I give thanks unto the Lord that > has slain you, and comforted mine eyes thereby.'[1] > > How do you reconcile the claim that Muhammad in his farewell sermon > said, "Hurt no one so that no one may hurt you." With the fact > that in his deathbed he said, "No two religions are allowed in > Arabia" and ordered the forced conversion, expulsion or ethnic > cleansing of the Jews and Christian and the murder of Pagans? > > The sura 9, which is the last words of Muhammad, is a manifesto of > discrimination and human rights abuses. This sura alone is proof that > Islam is against the Golden Rule > > The first requisite to feel the pain and suffering of others is to > accept that they have feelings like us and they also feel hurt the way > we do. If we deny such feelings on others we do not feel any remorse in > abusing them. Muhammad claimed all those who disbelieve in Allah are the > worst creatures. He even said that all non-believers will end up in hell > where they will be tortured for eternity. How then Muslims can treat > equally those whom they believe to be worst than beast and that deserve > eternal punishment? > > There is nothing in the Quran and Hadith that would make us believe that > Islam is compatible with the Golden Rule. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
