Saya ulang: "alifuru99" ini jelas tukang fitnah...
Tanpa bukti dia bilang saya pernah "meminta/memaksa atau dibantu oleh gereja gereja untuk menopang hidup sutan ..." --- In [email protected], "alifuru99" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > setuju..... > awas SUTAN (suruhan setan) sedang marajolelo ... > > > > PS. Orang ini otaknya sudah rusak dan membusuk... (komentar kaset rusak dari Gaek Juspik) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: PAREWA PAREWA > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 7:32 PM > Subject: Bls: [proletar] Otak "SUruhan seTAN Marajalelo" telah rusak dan yang jadi busuk > > > Awas Setan ngejeplak > > --- Pada Rab, 15/10/08, utusan.allah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis: > Dari: utusan.allah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Topik: Bls: [proletar] Otak "SUruhan seTAN Marajalelo" telah rusak dan yang jadi busuk > Kepada: [email protected] > Tanggal: Rabu, 15 Oktober, 2008, 7:28 PM > > Saya ulang: > > "alifuru99" ini jelas tukang fitnah... > > Tanpa bukti dia bilang saya pernah "meminta/memaksa atau dibantu oleh > > gereja gereja untuk menopang hidup sutan ..." > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.com, PAREWA PAREWA <parewa70@ .> wrote: > > > > > > Ni si Setan ngomong > > > > > > --- Pada Rab, 15/10/08, utusan.allah <utusan.allah@ ...> menulis: > > > Dari: utusan.allah <utusan.allah@ ...> > > > Topik: [proletar] Otak "SUruhan seTAN Marajalelo" telah rusak dan > > yang jadi busuk isinya.....Re: ( > > > Kepada: [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.com > > > Tanggal: Rabu, 15 Oktober, 2008, 7:23 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "alifuru99" ini jelas tukang fitnah... > > > > > > > > > > > > Tanpa bukti dia bilang saya pernah "meminta/memaksa atau dibantu oleh > > > > > > gereja gereja untuk menopang hidup sutan ..." > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.com, "alifuru99" <alifuru99@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saya tegaskan lagi : "Otak SUruhan seTAN marajolelo ini sudah rusak, > > > > > > membusuk dan mulai mengeras di beberapa bagian terutama yang terkait > > > > > > dengan hal "keluhuran manusia".. sehingga isinya memaki-maki dan > > > > > > memaksa orang untuk minta maaf untuk kebenaran yang dipikirnya itu > > > > > > fitnah..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Orang beradab dan ber-adat tahu kapan berbicara benar dan kapan > > > > > > harus meminta maaf... hanya "orang biadab" dan "tidak tahu adat" yang > > > > > > selalu memaki-maki orang islam yang berbeda pendapat dengannya dan > > > > > > selalu memaksa orang lain untuk minta maaf. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sekarang pertanyaannya : apakah sutan tidak pernah meminta/memaksa > > > > > > atau dibantu oleh gereja gereja untuk menopang hidup sutan ...? > > > > > > Hayooo... manusia jujur suka mengaku yang benar dan kudu minta maaf... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > EGP sutan.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: utusan.allah > > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.com > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 6:30 PM > > > > > > > Subject: [proletar] Otak "alifuru99" yang telah rusak dan yang > > > > > > jadi busuk isinya.....Re: (unknown) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saya ulang: "alifuru99" telah memfitnah. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Orang yagnjujur akanmencabut fitnahnya itu danmengiringinya dengan > > > > > > > permintaanmaaf. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "alifuru99" inijelas bukan manusia yang jujur... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.com, "alifuru99" <alifuru99@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wah.... harus minta maaf lagi nih angku suruhan setan.... > > > > > > > he...he...he. ... > > > > > > > > tipikal suruhan setan marajolelo.. . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > memaki-maki. .. terus disuruh minta maaf.....EMANG GUE PIKIRAN... > > > > > > > pareman gaek tak tau diuntuang... . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tabik.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > From: utusan.allah > > > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.com > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 3:32 PM > > > > > > > > Subject: [proletar] Otak "alifuru99" yang telah rusak dan yang > > > > > > > jadi busuk isinya.....Re: (unknown) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Otak "alifuru99" ini jelas sudah rusak dan sudah busuk: dia pakai > > > > > > > > kesempatan dia baca berita itu untuk menyebar fitnah tentang diri > > > > > > > > saya yang dikatakannnya menerima jatah dari gereja. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.com, "alifuru99" <alifuru99@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wah .. ini betul-betul kegagalan total dari angku suruhan setan > > > > > > > > (sutan) marajolelo setelah berbelas tahun memaki-maki oang islam > > > > > > bodoh > > > > > > > > dan berusaha membuat mereka menjadi lebih jauh dari islam malah > > > > > > > > setelah 5 tahun lebih setuju dengan aturan islam sementara angku > > > > > > > > suruhan setan makin kuat maki-makiannya meskipun sebentar lagi mau > > > > > > > > masuk lubang kubur... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jadi nggak salah komentar sutan... makin mengerikan.. . karena > > > > > > jatah > > > > > > > > dari gereja bakalan kena potong nih... makin lapar aja apalagi > > > > > > > > sebentar lagi mau musim dingin... onde mande......takana > > kampung nan > > > > > > > > jauah di mato... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tabik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > From: Jusfiq Hadjar > > > > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.com > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 7:29 PM > > > > > > > > > Subject: [proletar] (unknown) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mengerikan: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Indonesian survey and election results led R. William > > Liddle and > > > > > > > > Saiful > > > > > > > > > Mujani in 2003 to conclude that the number of Islamists "is no > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > than 15 per cent of the total Indonesian Muslim population". In > > > > > > > > > contrast, a 2008 survey of 8000 Indonesian Muslims by Roy Morgan > > > > > > > > > Research found 40 per cent of Indonesians favouring hadd > > criminal > > > > > > > > > punishments (such as cutting off the hands of thieves) and 52 > > > > > > > per cent > > > > > > > > > favouring some form of Islamic legal code." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 40 persen orang Islam Indonesia setuju dengan hukuman biadab > > > > > > > > potong tangan pencuri..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Size of Islamist menace > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Daniel Pipes | October 09, 2008 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > THE recent distribution in the US of about 28 million copies of > > > > > > > > the 2005 documentary Obsession: Radical Islam's War Against > > the West > > > > > > > > has stirred heated debate about its contents. One lightning > > rod for > > > > > > > > criticism concerns my on-screen statement that "10 to 15 per > > cent of > > > > > > > > Muslims worldwide support militant Islam". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Muslim Public Affairs Council declared this estimate > > "utterly > > > > > > > > unsubstantiated" and "completely without evidence". Masoud > > > > > > Kheirabadi, > > > > > > > > a professor at Portland State University and the author of > > > > > > children's > > > > > > > > books about Islam, informed The Oregonian newspaper that > > there's no > > > > > > > > basis for my estimate. Daniel Ruth, writing in The Tampa Tribune, > > > > > > > > asked dubiously how I arrived at this number. "Did he take a poll? > > > > > > > > That would be enlightening! What does support for radical Islam > > > > > > mean? > > > > > > > > Pipes provides no answers." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, Pipes did provide answers. He collected and published > > > > > > > > many numbers at How Many Islamists?, a weblog entry initiated in > > > > > > > May 2005. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > First, though, an explanation of what I meant by Muslims who > > > > > > > > "support militant Islam": these are Islamists, individuals who > > > > > > seek a > > > > > > > > totalistic, worldwide application of Islamic law, the sharia. In > > > > > > > > particular, they seek to build an Islamic state in Turkey, replace > > > > > > > > Israel with an Islamic state and the US constitution with the > > Koran. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But, as with any attitudinal estimate, several factors impede > > > > > > > > approximating the percentage of Islamists. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How much fervour: Gallup polled more than 50,000 Muslims > > across 10 > > > > > > > > countries and found that, if one defines radicals as those who > > > > > > deemed > > > > > > > > the 9/11 attacks "completely justified", their number constitutes > > > > > > > > about 7 per cent of the total population. But if one includes > > > > > > Muslims > > > > > > > > who considered the attacks "largely justified", their ranks > > jump to > > > > > > > > 13.5 per cent. Adding those who deemed the attacks "somewhat > > > > > > > > justified" boosts the number of radicals to 36.6 per cent. Which > > > > > > > > figure should one adopt? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gauge voter intentions: Elections measure Islamist sentiment > > > > > > > > untidily, for Islamist parties erratically win support from > > > > > > > > non-Islamists. Thus, Turkey's Justice and Development Party won > > > > > > 47 per > > > > > > > > cent of the vote in the 2007 elections and 34 per cent in the 2002 > > > > > > > > elections, and its precursor, the Virtue Party, won just 15 > > per cent > > > > > > > > in 1999. The Islamic Movement's northern faction won 75 per > > cent of > > > > > > > > the vote in the Israeli Arab city of Umm al-Fahm in the 2003 > > > > > > > > elections, while Hamas, the Palestinian terrorist organisation, > > > > > > won 44 > > > > > > > > per cent of the vote in the Palestinian Authority elections in > > 2006. > > > > > > > > Which number does one select? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What to measure: Many polls measure attitudes other than > > > > > > > > application of Islamic law. Gallup looks at support for 9/11. > > > > > > The Pew > > > > > > > > Global Attitudes Project assesses support for suicide bombing. > > Nawaf > > > > > > > > Obaid, a Saudi security specialist, focuses on pro-Osama bin Laden > > > > > > > > views. Germany's domestic security agency, Bundesamt fur > > > > > > > > Verfassungsschutz, counts membership in Islamist organisations. > > > > > > > > Margaret Nydell of Georgetown University calculates "Islamists who > > > > > > > > resort to violence". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Inexplicably varying results: A University of Jordan survey > > > > > > > > revealed that large majorities of Jordanians, Palestinians and > > > > > > > > Egyptians wish the sharia to be the only source of Islamic > > law, but > > > > > > > > only one-third of Syrians do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Indonesian survey and election results led R. William Liddle and > > > > > > > > Saiful Mujani in 2003 to conclude that the number of Islamists > > > > > > "is no > > > > > > > > more than 15 per cent of the total Indonesian Muslim > > population". In > > > > > > > > contrast, a 2008 survey of 8000 Indonesian Muslims by Roy Morgan > > > > > > > > Research found 40 per cent of Indonesians favouring hadd criminal > > > > > > > > punishments (such as cutting off the hands of thieves) and 52 > > > > > > per cent > > > > > > > > favouring some form of Islamic legal code. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Given these complications, it is not surprising that estimates > > > > > > > > vary considerably. On the one hand, the Islamic Supreme Council of > > > > > > > > America's Hisham Kabbani says 5 per cent to 10per cent of American > > > > > > > > Muslims are extremists and pollster Daniel Yankelovich finds > > > > > > that "the > > > > > > > > hate-America Islamist fundamentalists average about 10 per cent > > > > > > of all > > > > > > > > Muslims". On the other, reviewing 10 surveys of British Muslim > > > > > > > > opinion, I concluded that "more than half of British Muslims want > > > > > > > > Islamic law and 5 per cent endorse violence to achieve that end". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These ambiguous and contradictory percentages lead to no clear, > > > > > > > > specific count of Islamists. Out of a quantitative mishmash, I > > > > > > > > suggested just three days after 9/11 that about 10 per cent to > > > > > > 15 per > > > > > > > > cent of Muslims are determined Islamists. Subsequent evidence > > > > > > > > generally confirmed that estimate and suggested, if anything, > > > > > > that the > > > > > > > > actual numbers might be higher. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Negatively, 10 per cent to 15 per cent suggests that Islamists > > > > > > > > number about 150 million out of a billion-plus Muslims, more > > > > > > than all > > > > > > > > the fascists and communists who ever lived. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Positively, it implies that most Muslims can be swayed against > > > > > > > > Islamist totalitarianism. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Daniel Pipes is director of the Middle East Forum. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --- > > > > > > > > > Jusfiq Hadjar gelar Sutan Maradjo Lelo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Allah yang disembah orang Islam tipikal dan yang digambarkan > > oleh > > > > > > > > al-Mushaf itu dungu, buas, kejam, keji, ganas, zalim lagi biadab > > > > > > > > hanyalah Allah fiktif. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > Dapatkan alamat Email baru Anda! > > > Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan sebelum diambil orang lain! > > > http://mail. promotions. yahoo.com/ newdomains/ id/ > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Dapatkan alamat Email baru Anda! > Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan sebelum diambil orang lain! > http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/ > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ------------------------------------ Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe : [EMAIL PROTECTED] List owner : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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