"alifuru99" ini jelas tukang fitnah... Tanpa bukti dia bilang saya pernah "meminta/memaksa atau dibantu oleh gereja gereja untuk menopang hidup sutan ..."
--- In [email protected], "alifuru99" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Saya tegaskan lagi : "Otak SUruhan seTAN marajolelo ini sudah rusak, membusuk dan mulai mengeras di beberapa bagian terutama yang terkait dengan hal "keluhuran manusia".. sehingga isinya memaki-maki dan memaksa orang untuk minta maaf untuk kebenaran yang dipikirnya itu fitnah..... > > Orang beradab dan ber-adat tahu kapan berbicara benar dan kapan harus meminta maaf... hanya "orang biadab" dan "tidak tahu adat" yang selalu memaki-maki orang islam yang berbeda pendapat dengannya dan selalu memaksa orang lain untuk minta maaf. > > sekarang pertanyaannya : apakah sutan tidak pernah meminta/memaksa atau dibantu oleh gereja gereja untuk menopang hidup sutan ...? Hayooo... manusia jujur suka mengaku yang benar dan kudu minta maaf... > > EGP sutan.... > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: utusan.allah > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 6:30 PM > Subject: [proletar] Otak "alifuru99" yang telah rusak dan yang jadi busuk isinya.....Re: (unknown) > > > Saya ulang: "alifuru99" telah memfitnah. > > Orang yagnjujur akanmencabut fitnahnya itu danmengiringinya dengan > permintaanmaaf. > > "alifuru99" inijelas bukan manusia yang jujur... > > --- In [email protected], "alifuru99" <alifuru99@> wrote: > > > > wah.... harus minta maaf lagi nih angku suruhan setan.... > he...he...he.... > > tipikal suruhan setan marajolelo... > > > > memaki-maki... terus disuruh minta maaf.....EMANG GUE PIKIRAN... > pareman gaek tak tau diuntuang.... > > > > > > tabik.... > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: utusan.allah > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 3:32 PM > > Subject: [proletar] Otak "alifuru99" yang telah rusak dan yang > jadi busuk isinya.....Re: (unknown) > > > > > > > > Otak "alifuru99" ini jelas sudah rusak dan sudah busuk: dia pakai > > kesempatan dia baca berita itu untuk menyebar fitnah tentang diri > > saya yang dikatakannnya menerima jatah dari gereja. > > > > --- In [email protected], "alifuru99" <alifuru99@> wrote: > > > > > > wah .. ini betul-betul kegagalan total dari angku suruhan setan > > (sutan) marajolelo setelah berbelas tahun memaki-maki oang islam bodoh > > dan berusaha membuat mereka menjadi lebih jauh dari islam malah > > setelah 5 tahun lebih setuju dengan aturan islam sementara angku > > suruhan setan makin kuat maki-makiannya meskipun sebentar lagi mau > > masuk lubang kubur... > > > > > > jadi nggak salah komentar sutan... makin mengerikan... karena jatah > > dari gereja bakalan kena potong nih... makin lapar aja apalagi > > sebentar lagi mau musim dingin... onde mande......takana kampung nan > > jauah di mato... > > > > > > > > > tabik > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Jusfiq Hadjar > > > To: [email protected] > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 7:29 PM > > > Subject: [proletar] (unknown) > > > > > > > > > Mengerikan: > > > > > > "Indonesian survey and election results led R. William Liddle and > > Saiful > > > Mujani in 2003 to conclude that the number of Islamists "is no more > > > than 15 per cent of the total Indonesian Muslim population". In > > > contrast, a 2008 survey of 8000 Indonesian Muslims by Roy Morgan > > > Research found 40 per cent of Indonesians favouring hadd criminal > > > punishments (such as cutting off the hands of thieves) and 52 > per cent > > > favouring some form of Islamic legal code." > > > > > > 40 persen orang Islam Indonesia setuju dengan hukuman biadab > > potong tangan pencuri..... > > > > > > Size of Islamist menace > > > > > > Daniel Pipes | October 09, 2008 > > > > > > THE recent distribution in the US of about 28 million copies of > > the 2005 documentary Obsession: Radical Islam's War Against the West > > has stirred heated debate about its contents. One lightning rod for > > criticism concerns my on-screen statement that "10 to 15 per cent of > > Muslims worldwide support militant Islam". > > > > > > The Muslim Public Affairs Council declared this estimate "utterly > > unsubstantiated" and "completely without evidence". Masoud Kheirabadi, > > a professor at Portland State University and the author of children's > > books about Islam, informed The Oregonian newspaper that there's no > > basis for my estimate. Daniel Ruth, writing in The Tampa Tribune, > > asked dubiously how I arrived at this number. "Did he take a poll? > > That would be enlightening! What does support for radical Islam mean? > > Pipes provides no answers." > > > > > > Actually, Pipes did provide answers. He collected and published > > many numbers at How Many Islamists?, a weblog entry initiated in > May 2005. > > > > > > First, though, an explanation of what I meant by Muslims who > > "support militant Islam": these are Islamists, individuals who seek a > > totalistic, worldwide application of Islamic law, the sharia. In > > particular, they seek to build an Islamic state in Turkey, replace > > Israel with an Islamic state and the US constitution with the Koran. > > > > > > But, as with any attitudinal estimate, several factors impede > > approximating the percentage of Islamists. > > > > > > How much fervour: Gallup polled more than 50,000 Muslims across 10 > > countries and found that, if one defines radicals as those who deemed > > the 9/11 attacks "completely justified", their number constitutes > > about 7 per cent of the total population. But if one includes Muslims > > who considered the attacks "largely justified", their ranks jump to > > 13.5 per cent. Adding those who deemed the attacks "somewhat > > justified" boosts the number of radicals to 36.6 per cent. Which > > figure should one adopt? > > > > > > Gauge voter intentions: Elections measure Islamist sentiment > > untidily, for Islamist parties erratically win support from > > non-Islamists. Thus, Turkey's Justice and Development Party won 47 per > > cent of the vote in the 2007 elections and 34 per cent in the 2002 > > elections, and its precursor, the Virtue Party, won just 15 per cent > > in 1999. The Islamic Movement's northern faction won 75 per cent of > > the vote in the Israeli Arab city of Umm al-Fahm in the 2003 > > elections, while Hamas, the Palestinian terrorist organisation, won 44 > > per cent of the vote in the Palestinian Authority elections in 2006. > > Which number does one select? > > > > > > What to measure: Many polls measure attitudes other than > > application of Islamic law. Gallup looks at support for 9/11. The Pew > > Global Attitudes Project assesses support for suicide bombing. Nawaf > > Obaid, a Saudi security specialist, focuses on pro-Osama bin Laden > > views. Germany's domestic security agency, Bundesamt fur > > Verfassungsschutz, counts membership in Islamist organisations. > > Margaret Nydell of Georgetown University calculates "Islamists who > > resort to violence". > > > > > > Inexplicably varying results: A University of Jordan survey > > revealed that large majorities of Jordanians, Palestinians and > > Egyptians wish the sharia to be the only source of Islamic law, but > > only one-third of Syrians do. > > > > > > Indonesian survey and election results led R. William Liddle and > > Saiful Mujani in 2003 to conclude that the number of Islamists "is no > > more than 15 per cent of the total Indonesian Muslim population". In > > contrast, a 2008 survey of 8000 Indonesian Muslims by Roy Morgan > > Research found 40 per cent of Indonesians favouring hadd criminal > > punishments (such as cutting off the hands of thieves) and 52 per cent > > favouring some form of Islamic legal code. > > > > > > Given these complications, it is not surprising that estimates > > vary considerably. On the one hand, the Islamic Supreme Council of > > America's Hisham Kabbani says 5 per cent to 10per cent of American > > Muslims are extremists and pollster Daniel Yankelovich finds that "the > > hate-America Islamist fundamentalists average about 10 per cent of all > > Muslims". On the other, reviewing 10 surveys of British Muslim > > opinion, I concluded that "more than half of British Muslims want > > Islamic law and 5 per cent endorse violence to achieve that end". > > > > > > These ambiguous and contradictory percentages lead to no clear, > > specific count of Islamists. Out of a quantitative mishmash, I > > suggested just three days after 9/11 that about 10 per cent to 15 per > > cent of Muslims are determined Islamists. Subsequent evidence > > generally confirmed that estimate and suggested, if anything, that the > > actual numbers might be higher. > > > > > > Negatively, 10 per cent to 15 per cent suggests that Islamists > > number about 150 million out of a billion-plus Muslims, more than all > > the fascists and communists who ever lived. > > > > > > Positively, it implies that most Muslims can be swayed against > > Islamist totalitarianism. > > > > > > Daniel Pipes is director of the Middle East Forum. > > > > > > --------------- > > > Jusfiq Hadjar gelar Sutan Maradjo Lelo > > > > > > Allah yang disembah orang Islam tipikal dan yang digambarkan oleh > > al-Mushaf itu dungu, buas, kejam, keji, ganas, zalim lagi biadab > > hanyalah Allah fiktif. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ------------------------------------ Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe : [EMAIL PROTECTED] List owner : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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