setuju.....
awas SUTAN (suruhan setan) sedang marajolelo ...


PS. Orang ini otaknya sudah rusak dan membusuk... (komentar kaset rusak dari 
Gaek Juspik)



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: PAREWA PAREWA 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 7:32 PM
  Subject: Bls: [proletar] Otak "SUruhan seTAN Marajalelo" telah rusak dan yang 
jadi busuk


  Awas Setan ngejeplak

  --- Pada Rab, 15/10/08, utusan.allah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:
  Dari: utusan.allah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Topik: Bls: [proletar] Otak "SUruhan seTAN Marajalelo" telah rusak dan yang 
jadi busuk
  Kepada: [email protected]
  Tanggal: Rabu, 15 Oktober, 2008, 7:28 PM

  Saya ulang:

  "alifuru99" ini jelas tukang fitnah...

  Tanpa bukti dia bilang saya pernah "meminta/memaksa atau dibantu oleh

  gereja gereja untuk menopang hidup sutan ..."

  --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.com, PAREWA PAREWA <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .> wrote:

  >

  > Ni si Setan ngomong

  > 

  > --- Pada Rab, 15/10/08, utusan.allah <utusan.allah@ ...> menulis:

  > Dari: utusan.allah <utusan.allah@ ...>

  > Topik: [proletar] Otak "SUruhan seTAN Marajalelo" telah rusak dan

  yang jadi busuk isinya.....Re: (

  > Kepada: [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.com

  > Tanggal: Rabu, 15 Oktober, 2008, 7:23 PM

  > 

  > 

  > 

  > 

  > 

  > 

  > 

  > 

  > 

  > 

  > 

  > 

  > 

  > "alifuru99" ini jelas tukang fitnah...

  > 

  > 

  > 

  > Tanpa bukti dia bilang saya pernah "meminta/memaksa atau dibantu oleh

  > 

  > gereja gereja untuk menopang hidup sutan ..."

  > 

  > 

  > 

  > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.com, "alifuru99" <alifuru99@ ..> wrote:

  > 

  > >

  > 

  > > Saya tegaskan lagi : "Otak SUruhan seTAN marajolelo ini sudah rusak,

  > 

  > membusuk dan mulai mengeras di beberapa bagian terutama yang terkait

  > 

  > dengan hal "keluhuran manusia".. sehingga isinya memaki-maki dan

  > 

  > memaksa orang untuk minta maaf untuk kebenaran yang dipikirnya itu

  > 

  > fitnah.....

  > 

  > > 

  > 

  > > Orang beradab dan ber-adat tahu kapan berbicara benar dan kapan

  > 

  > harus meminta maaf... hanya "orang biadab" dan "tidak tahu adat" yang

  > 

  > selalu memaki-maki orang islam yang berbeda pendapat dengannya dan

  > 

  > selalu memaksa orang lain untuk minta maaf.

  > 

  > > 

  > 

  > > sekarang pertanyaannya : apakah sutan tidak pernah meminta/memaksa

  > 

  > atau dibantu oleh gereja gereja untuk menopang hidup sutan ...?

  > 

  > Hayooo... manusia jujur suka mengaku yang benar dan kudu minta maaf... 

  > 

  > > 

  > 

  > > EGP sutan....

  > 

  > > 

  > 

  > > 

  > 

  > > ----- Original Message ----- 

  > 

  > > From: utusan.allah 

  > 

  > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.com 

  > 

  > > Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 6:30 PM

  > 

  > > Subject: [proletar] Otak "alifuru99" yang telah rusak dan yang

  > 

  > jadi busuk isinya.....Re: (unknown)

  > 

  > > 

  > 

  > > 

  > 

  > > Saya ulang: "alifuru99" telah memfitnah.

  > 

  > > 

  > 

  > > Orang yagnjujur akanmencabut fitnahnya itu danmengiringinya dengan

  > 

  > > permintaanmaaf.

  > 

  > > 

  > 

  > > "alifuru99" inijelas bukan manusia yang jujur...

  > 

  > > 

  > 

  > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.com, "alifuru99" <alifuru99@> wrote:

  > 

  > > >

  > 

  > > > wah.... harus minta maaf lagi nih angku suruhan setan....

  > 

  > > he...he...he. ...

  > 

  > > > tipikal suruhan setan marajolelo.. .

  > 

  > > > 

  > 

  > > > memaki-maki. .. terus disuruh minta maaf.....EMANG GUE PIKIRAN...

  > 

  > > pareman gaek tak tau diuntuang... .

  > 

  > > > 

  > 

  > > > 

  > 

  > > > tabik....

  > 

  > > > 

  > 

  > > > 

  > 

  > > > 

  > 

  > > > ----- Original Message ----- 

  > 

  > > > From: utusan.allah 

  > 

  > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.com 

  > 

  > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 3:32 PM

  > 

  > > > Subject: [proletar] Otak "alifuru99" yang telah rusak dan yang

  > 

  > > jadi busuk isinya.....Re: (unknown)

  > 

  > > > 

  > 

  > > > 

  > 

  > > > 

  > 

  > > > Otak "alifuru99" ini jelas sudah rusak dan sudah busuk: dia pakai

  > 

  > > > kesempatan dia baca berita itu untuk menyebar fitnah tentang diri

  > 

  > > > saya yang dikatakannnya menerima jatah dari gereja.

  > 

  > > > 

  > 

  > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.com, "alifuru99" <alifuru99@> wrote:

  > 

  > > > >

  > 

  > > > > wah .. ini betul-betul kegagalan total dari angku suruhan setan

  > 

  > > > (sutan) marajolelo setelah berbelas tahun memaki-maki oang islam

  > 

  > bodoh

  > 

  > > > dan berusaha membuat mereka menjadi lebih jauh dari islam malah

  > 

  > > > setelah 5 tahun lebih setuju dengan aturan islam sementara angku

  > 

  > > > suruhan setan makin kuat maki-makiannya meskipun sebentar lagi mau

  > 

  > > > masuk lubang kubur...

  > 

  > > > > 

  > 

  > > > > jadi nggak salah komentar sutan... makin mengerikan.. . karena

  > 

  > jatah

  > 

  > > > dari gereja bakalan kena potong nih... makin lapar aja apalagi

  > 

  > > > sebentar lagi mau musim dingin... onde mande......takana

  kampung nan

  > 

  > > > jauah di mato...

  > 

  > > > > 

  > 

  > > > > 

  > 

  > > > > tabik

  > 

  > > > > 

  > 

  > > > > 

  > 

  > > > > ----- Original Message ----- 

  > 

  > > > > From: Jusfiq Hadjar 

  > 

  > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.com 

  > 

  > > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 7:29 PM

  > 

  > > > > Subject: [proletar] (unknown)

  > 

  > > > > 

  > 

  > > > > 

  > 

  > > > > Mengerikan: 

  > 

  > > > > 

  > 

  > > > > "Indonesian survey and election results led R. William

  Liddle and

  > 

  > > > Saiful

  > 

  > > > > Mujani in 2003 to conclude that the number of Islamists "is no

  > 

  > more

  > 

  > > > > than 15 per cent of the total Indonesian Muslim population". In

  > 

  > > > > contrast, a 2008 survey of 8000 Indonesian Muslims by Roy Morgan

  > 

  > > > > Research found 40 per cent of Indonesians favouring hadd

  criminal

  > 

  > > > > punishments (such as cutting off the hands of thieves) and 52

  > 

  > > per cent

  > 

  > > > > favouring some form of Islamic legal code."

  > 

  > > > > 

  > 

  > > > > 40 persen orang Islam Indonesia setuju dengan hukuman biadab

  > 

  > > > potong tangan pencuri.....

  > 

  > > > > 

  > 

  > > > > Size of Islamist menace

  > 

  > > > > 

  > 

  > > > > Daniel Pipes | October 09, 2008

  > 

  > > > > 

  > 

  > > > > THE recent distribution in the US of about 28 million copies of

  > 

  > > > the 2005 documentary Obsession: Radical Islam's War Against

  the West

  > 

  > > > has stirred heated debate about its contents. One lightning

  rod for

  > 

  > > > criticism concerns my on-screen statement that "10 to 15 per

  cent of

  > 

  > > > Muslims worldwide support militant Islam".

  > 

  > > > > 

  > 

  > > > > The Muslim Public Affairs Council declared this estimate

  "utterly

  > 

  > > > unsubstantiated" and "completely without evidence". Masoud

  > 

  > Kheirabadi,

  > 

  > > > a professor at Portland State University and the author of

  > 

  > children's

  > 

  > > > books about Islam, informed The Oregonian newspaper that

  there's no

  > 

  > > > basis for my estimate. Daniel Ruth, writing in The Tampa Tribune,

  > 

  > > > asked dubiously how I arrived at this number. "Did he take a poll?

  > 

  > > > That would be enlightening! What does support for radical Islam

  > 

  > mean?

  > 

  > > > Pipes provides no answers."

  > 

  > > > > 

  > 

  > > > > Actually, Pipes did provide answers. He collected and published

  > 

  > > > many numbers at How Many Islamists?, a weblog entry initiated in

  > 

  > > May 2005.

  > 

  > > > > 

  > 

  > > > > First, though, an explanation of what I meant by Muslims who

  > 

  > > > "support militant Islam": these are Islamists, individuals who

  > 

  > seek a

  > 

  > > > totalistic, worldwide application of Islamic law, the sharia. In

  > 

  > > > particular, they seek to build an Islamic state in Turkey, replace

  > 

  > > > Israel with an Islamic state and the US constitution with the

  Koran.

  > 

  > > > > 

  > 

  > > > > But, as with any attitudinal estimate, several factors impede

  > 

  > > > approximating the percentage of Islamists.

  > 

  > > > > 

  > 

  > > > > How much fervour: Gallup polled more than 50,000 Muslims

  across 10

  > 

  > > > countries and found that, if one defines radicals as those who

  > 

  > deemed

  > 

  > > > the 9/11 attacks "completely justified", their number constitutes

  > 

  > > > about 7 per cent of the total population. But if one includes

  > 

  > Muslims

  > 

  > > > who considered the attacks "largely justified", their ranks

  jump to

  > 

  > > > 13.5 per cent. Adding those who deemed the attacks "somewhat

  > 

  > > > justified" boosts the number of radicals to 36.6 per cent. Which

  > 

  > > > figure should one adopt?

  > 

  > > > > 

  > 

  > > > > Gauge voter intentions: Elections measure Islamist sentiment

  > 

  > > > untidily, for Islamist parties erratically win support from

  > 

  > > > non-Islamists. Thus, Turkey's Justice and Development Party won

  > 

  > 47 per

  > 

  > > > cent of the vote in the 2007 elections and 34 per cent in the 2002

  > 

  > > > elections, and its precursor, the Virtue Party, won just 15

  per cent

  > 

  > > > in 1999. The Islamic Movement's northern faction won 75 per

  cent of

  > 

  > > > the vote in the Israeli Arab city of Umm al-Fahm in the 2003

  > 

  > > > elections, while Hamas, the Palestinian terrorist organisation,

  > 

  > won 44

  > 

  > > > per cent of the vote in the Palestinian Authority elections in

  2006.

  > 

  > > > Which number does one select?

  > 

  > > > > 

  > 

  > > > > What to measure: Many polls measure attitudes other than

  > 

  > > > application of Islamic law. Gallup looks at support for 9/11.

  > 

  > The Pew

  > 

  > > > Global Attitudes Project assesses support for suicide bombing.

  Nawaf

  > 

  > > > Obaid, a Saudi security specialist, focuses on pro-Osama bin Laden

  > 

  > > > views. Germany's domestic security agency, Bundesamt fur

  > 

  > > > Verfassungsschutz, counts membership in Islamist organisations.

  > 

  > > > Margaret Nydell of Georgetown University calculates "Islamists who

  > 

  > > > resort to violence".

  > 

  > > > > 

  > 

  > > > > Inexplicably varying results: A University of Jordan survey

  > 

  > > > revealed that large majorities of Jordanians, Palestinians and

  > 

  > > > Egyptians wish the sharia to be the only source of Islamic

  law, but

  > 

  > > > only one-third of Syrians do.

  > 

  > > > > 

  > 

  > > > > Indonesian survey and election results led R. William Liddle and

  > 

  > > > Saiful Mujani in 2003 to conclude that the number of Islamists

  > 

  > "is no

  > 

  > > > more than 15 per cent of the total Indonesian Muslim

  population". In

  > 

  > > > contrast, a 2008 survey of 8000 Indonesian Muslims by Roy Morgan

  > 

  > > > Research found 40 per cent of Indonesians favouring hadd criminal

  > 

  > > > punishments (such as cutting off the hands of thieves) and 52

  > 

  > per cent

  > 

  > > > favouring some form of Islamic legal code.

  > 

  > > > > 

  > 

  > > > > Given these complications, it is not surprising that estimates

  > 

  > > > vary considerably. On the one hand, the Islamic Supreme Council of

  > 

  > > > America's Hisham Kabbani says 5 per cent to 10per cent of American

  > 

  > > > Muslims are extremists and pollster Daniel Yankelovich finds

  > 

  > that "the

  > 

  > > > hate-America Islamist fundamentalists average about 10 per cent

  > 

  > of all

  > 

  > > > Muslims". On the other, reviewing 10 surveys of British Muslim

  > 

  > > > opinion, I concluded that "more than half of British Muslims want

  > 

  > > > Islamic law and 5 per cent endorse violence to achieve that end".

  > 

  > > > > 

  > 

  > > > > These ambiguous and contradictory percentages lead to no clear,

  > 

  > > > specific count of Islamists. Out of a quantitative mishmash, I

  > 

  > > > suggested just three days after 9/11 that about 10 per cent to

  > 

  > 15 per

  > 

  > > > cent of Muslims are determined Islamists. Subsequent evidence

  > 

  > > > generally confirmed that estimate and suggested, if anything,

  > 

  > that the

  > 

  > > > actual numbers might be higher.

  > 

  > > > > 

  > 

  > > > > Negatively, 10 per cent to 15 per cent suggests that Islamists

  > 

  > > > number about 150 million out of a billion-plus Muslims, more

  > 

  > than all

  > 

  > > > the fascists and communists who ever lived.

  > 

  > > > > 

  > 

  > > > > Positively, it implies that most Muslims can be swayed against

  > 

  > > > Islamist totalitarianism.

  > 

  > > > > 

  > 

  > > > > Daniel Pipes is director of the Middle East Forum.

  > 

  > > > > 

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  > > > > Jusfiq Hadjar gelar Sutan Maradjo Lelo

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  > > > > Allah yang disembah orang Islam tipikal dan yang digambarkan

  oleh

  > 

  > > > al-Mushaf itu dungu, buas, kejam, keji, ganas, zalim lagi biadab

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  > > > hanyalah Allah fiktif.

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