Di negara2 barat kalo ngga salah disebut dg istilah "industri yesus". tuhan dalam hal ini sudah menjadi komoditas ekonomi. Betapa tidak, duit yg berputar disektor "industri" itu luar biasa besarnya. Dan pasar nya yg paling prosepktif sejak beberapa dekade ini terdapat di masyarakat negara miskin atau negara berkembang, setelah pasar barat lama meredup dan kehilangan kepercayaan 'consumer'nya. Jadi...ya gitu deh. Masalah.
--- In [email protected], "pemerhatidunia" <pemerhatidu...@...> wrote: > > Pertumbuhan kristen di Singapore, mereka memakai mal2 dan ruang2 publik > dijadikan tempat konser musik dan khotbah, sampai pemerintah Singapore > membatasi mereka. Ada beberapa gereja kota yg besar sekali di sana. > > Kristen itu agresif. Mereka kalau ditindas akan gerilya menggerogoti sampai > rubuh bangunannya. Kalau dibiarkan akan mengadakan show dan kampanye besar2an > untuk mencari pengikut. Itu sebabnya pemerintah2 yg dikuasai Islam di > Indonesia sangat kuatir pada pertumbuhan gereja. Dikeluarkan aturan macam > untuk melarang gereja. > > Kristen sudah menjadi agama pop. Beda dgn Islam yg makin menutup diri dan > makin rapat dan rahasia, kristen berani membuka diri dan show terbuka > dimana2. > > Semua menurutku ada salah ada benarnya. kita lihat saja. > > > Guidelines on use of mall space for religion > Wed, Jul 21, 2010 > my paper > > By Kenny Chee > > GUIDELINES on the extent to which commercial spaces are allowed to be used > for religious activities were issued yesterday by the Government. > > The guidelines specify, among other things, that religious groups can carry > out their activities in commercial premises, but in a "limited and > nonexclusive" way. > > For example, religious activities in commercial areas should not take place > for more than two days a week. > > Each religious group can use up to 10,000 sq m in any commercial space, while > a commercial development should not have more than 20,000 sq m or 20 per cent > of its gross floor area - whichever is lower - for religious activities. > > In a joint statement yesterday, the Urban Redevelopment Authority (URA) and > the Ministry of Community Development, Youth and Sports said that the > guidelines had been drawn up to ensure that the "predominant use and > character of commercial developments are not eroded, and that such places > remain as secular spaces that can be enjoyed by people from all segments of > society". > > They also said that religious activities should be conducted at sites > designated as places of worship for religious groups. > > But they added that some flexibility could be exercised to allow the "limited > use of commercial premises by religious organisations". > > The URA has received requests from religious groups to use commercial spaces > for religious activities "from time to time", and the agency has exercised > some flexibility and allowed some of these proposals on a case-by-case basis. > > A URA spokesman said these guidelines have always been the agency's internal > guiding principles. They are now being made public "to provide greater > clarity to religious organisations and building owners on what can be allowed > within commercial developments". > > Property owners and religious groups should observe the guidelines if the > religious activities are held regularly in spaces in commercial and hotel > developments, such as auditoriums, function halls, convention centres and > cinemas. > > The guidelines do not apply to activities organised on an ad-hoc basis. > > Religious activities conducted in designated places of worship will not be > affected. > > Building owners and religious groups should ensure that religious activities > do not cause disturbances to the public, like traffic problems. > > The URA spokesman said that the guidelines apply to all religious groups, and > are not targeted at any particular organisation or group. > > City Harvest Church, which took a stake in Suntec Singapore and would use > some of the convention centre's facilities next year to conduct its church > activities, said that it is currently "studying the implications" of the > guidelines. > > Suntec Singapore said that the guidelines "provide clarity on the allowable > use of commercial spaces for religious activities". > > New Creation Church, which holds weekly sessions in Suntec City, declined to > comment. > > ken...@... > > > For more my paper stories click here. > Bookmark and Share > > > You are assuming religious meetings as predominantly Christian services with > songs, music and other performances. > > This is a narrow mindset, as there are other religious organization that do > NOT put on a show each weekend. > > Moreover, the guidelines are intended for those who are leasing on a > CONSISTENT and weekly basis. This is the difference between religious > organizations and pop shows.... > > There is nothing wrong to have guidelines in place to ensure that no religion > can "take over" a secular place exclusively and consistently for each weekend. > > And how is it an abuse of authority? Every country has its policy of zoning > areas for development. If a area is meant for residential living, surely you > don't build a factory over it (unless approval granted by the relevant land > agencies). > ..... > Posted by: shepherd_18 at Wed Jul 21 15:30:50 SGT 2010 > Actually, on why there are a need to use commercial buildings for the church > services. It is a matter of simple demand and supply. There are many small > churches who cannot offer to build a church, and so they use commercial > premises. All in all, the government is both the god and devil in this whole > saga. WHy, on one hand, they want to please people by coming with some stupid > rules of which most landlord are tied with hand to rent out their premises. > Is church office consdiered a worship place. There are many churches who rent > the office to handle their church affairs. > > ....... stil to come if I can gather some toughts on this issue. > Posted by: waihoong at Wed Jul 21 15:20:25 SGT 2010 > > > Let me share an experience with you. > > Whenever there are many cars doing illegally by the mosque goers, and during > the Hari Raya Haji and Puasa, the traffic warren close two eyes. (Mainly > Malay). Whenever there are Chinese New Year or other Church events, the Malay > Traffic Warren are always to stand by to book the cars. I have observed it so > many times, that is one time, I tell them off of inconsistent practices. WHy > they do not book their Malay or Mulsim, and book the Non-Malay or non_muslims. > > I have seen so many time. > > HOwever, I also aware of the churches behind YMCA are attended by some > political leaders, hence, they are not booked even though there are parking > places opposite them or nearby. > > It is not about compassion, it is about ..... > Posted by: waihoong at Wed Jul 21 15:15:50 SGT 2010 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! 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