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--- In [email protected], PAREWA <parew...@...> wrote:
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> Di negara2 barat kalo ngga salah disebut dg istilah "industri yesus". tuhan 
> dalam hal ini sudah menjadi komoditas ekonomi. Betapa tidak, duit yg berputar 
> disektor "industri" itu luar biasa besarnya.  Dan pasar nya yg paling 
> prosepktif sejak beberapa dekade ini terdapat di masyarakat negara miskin 
> atau negara berkembang, setelah pasar barat lama meredup dan kehilangan 
> kepercayaan 'consumer'nya. Jadi...ya gitu deh. Masalah.
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> --- In [email protected], "pemerhatidunia" <pemerhatidunia@> wrote:
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> > Pertumbuhan kristen di Singapore, mereka memakai mal2 dan ruang2 publik 
> > dijadikan tempat konser musik dan khotbah, sampai pemerintah Singapore 
> > membatasi mereka. Ada beberapa gereja kota yg besar sekali di sana.  
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> > Kristen itu agresif. Mereka kalau ditindas akan gerilya menggerogoti sampai 
> > rubuh bangunannya. Kalau dibiarkan akan mengadakan show dan kampanye 
> > besar2an untuk mencari pengikut. Itu sebabnya pemerintah2 yg dikuasai Islam 
> > di Indonesia sangat kuatir pada pertumbuhan gereja. Dikeluarkan aturan 
> > macam untuk melarang gereja.  
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> > Kristen sudah menjadi agama pop. Beda dgn Islam yg makin menutup diri dan 
> > makin rapat dan rahasia, kristen berani membuka diri dan show terbuka 
> > dimana2. 
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> > Semua menurutku ada salah ada benarnya. kita lihat saja. 
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> > Guidelines on use of mall space for religion
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> > Wed, Jul 21, 2010
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> > my paper
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> > By Kenny Chee
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> > GUIDELINES on the extent to which commercial spaces are allowed to be used 
> > for religious activities were issued yesterday by the Government.
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> > The guidelines specify, among other things, that religious groups can carry 
> > out their activities in commercial premises, but in a "limited and 
> > nonexclusive" way.
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> > For example, religious activities in commercial areas should not take place 
> > for more than two days a week.
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> > Each religious group can use up to 10,000 sq m in any commercial space, 
> > while a commercial development should not have more than 20,000 sq m or 20 
> > per cent of its gross floor area - whichever is lower - for religious 
> > activities.
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> > 
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> > In a joint statement yesterday, the Urban Redevelopment Authority (URA) and 
> > the Ministry of Community Development, Youth and Sports said that the 
> > guidelines had been drawn up to ensure that the "predominant use and 
> > character of commercial developments are not eroded, and that such places 
> > remain as secular spaces that can be enjoyed by people from all segments of 
> > society".
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> > They also said that religious activities should be conducted at sites 
> > designated as places of worship for religious groups.
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> > 
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> > But they added that some flexibility could be exercised to allow the 
> > "limited use of commercial premises by religious organisations".
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> > The URA has received requests from religious groups to use commercial 
> > spaces for religious activities "from time to time", and the agency has 
> > exercised some flexibility and allowed some of these proposals on a 
> > case-by-case basis.
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> > A URA spokesman said these guidelines have always been the agency's 
> > internal guiding principles. They are now being made public "to provide 
> > greater clarity to religious organisations and building owners on what can 
> > be allowed within commercial developments".
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> > 
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> > Property owners and religious groups should observe the guidelines if the 
> > religious activities are held regularly in spaces in commercial and hotel 
> > developments, such as auditoriums, function halls, convention centres and 
> > cinemas.
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> > The guidelines do not apply to activities organised on an ad-hoc basis.
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> > Religious activities conducted in designated places of worship will not be 
> > affected.
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> > Building owners and religious groups should ensure that religious 
> > activities do not cause disturbances to the public, like traffic problems.
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> > 
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> > The URA spokesman said that the guidelines apply to all religious groups, 
> > and are not targeted at any particular organisation or group.
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> > 
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> > City Harvest Church, which took a stake in Suntec Singapore and would use 
> > some of the convention centre's facilities next year to conduct its church 
> > activities, said that it is currently "studying the implications" of the 
> > guidelines.
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> > Suntec Singapore said that the guidelines "provide clarity on the allowable 
> > use of commercial spaces for religious activities".
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> > New Creation Church, which holds weekly sessions in Suntec City, declined 
> > to comment.
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> > You are assuming religious meetings as predominantly Christian services 
> > with songs, music and other performances.
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> > This is a narrow mindset, as there are other religious organization that do 
> > NOT put on a show each weekend.
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> > 
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> > Moreover, the guidelines are intended for those who are leasing on a 
> > CONSISTENT and weekly basis. This is the difference between religious 
> > organizations and pop shows....
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> > 
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> > There is nothing wrong to have guidelines in place to ensure that no 
> > religion can "take over" a secular place exclusively and consistently for 
> > each weekend.
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> > 
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> > And how is it an abuse of authority? Every country has its policy of zoning 
> > areas for development. If a area is meant for residential living, surely 
> > you don't build a factory over it (unless approval granted by the relevant 
> > land agencies).
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> > .....
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> > Posted by: shepherd_18 at Wed Jul 21 15:30:50 SGT 2010
> 
> > Actually, on why there are a need to use commercial buildings for the 
> > church services. It is a matter of simple demand and supply. There are many 
> > small churches who cannot offer to build a church, and so they use 
> > commercial premises. All in all, the government is both the god and devil 
> > in this whole saga. WHy, on one hand, they want to please people by coming 
> > with some stupid rules of which most landlord are tied with hand to rent 
> > out their premises. Is church office consdiered a worship place. There are 
> > many churches who rent the office to handle their church affairs.
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> > 
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> > ....... stil to come if I can gather some toughts on this issue.
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> > Posted by: waihoong at Wed Jul 21 15:20:25 SGT 2010
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> > Let me share an experience with you.
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> > 
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> > Whenever there are many cars doing illegally by the mosque goers, and 
> > during the Hari Raya Haji and Puasa, the traffic warren close two eyes. 
> > (Mainly Malay). Whenever there are Chinese New Year or other Church events, 
> > the Malay Traffic Warren are always to stand by to book the cars. I have 
> > observed it so many times, that is one time, I tell them off of 
> > inconsistent practices. WHy they do not book their Malay or Mulsim, and 
> > book the Non-Malay or non_muslims.
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> > 
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> > I have seen so many time.
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> > 
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> > HOwever, I also aware of the churches behind YMCA are attended by some 
> > political leaders, hence, they are not booked even though there are parking 
> > places opposite them or nearby.
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> > It is not about compassion, it is about .....
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> > Posted by: waihoong at Wed Jul 21 15:15:50 SGT 2010
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