Gua udah bolak balik nyuruh lu belajar Islam, tetap aja lu kagak nurut nasihat gua, padahal auloh udah nyuruh lu buat ngedengerin nasihat dr ahli kitab. Goblok amat sih lu ini.
Dimana disebut di Quran dan hadis bhw nabi lu itu ngembat Aisha setelah menuhin persyarata? Kagak ada. Sebaliknya Quran bilang kalo anak yg blm mens itu hrs dikasih masa iddah yg berarti si anak itu udah diembat sebelumnya. Dgn kata lain, halal ngembat anak yg blm mens. Hehehe... krn ga bisa bantah Quran dan sunnah, orang2 Islam akan nanggapin dgn ngefitnah gua. >________________________________ >From: Abbas <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 11:10 AM >Subject: [proletar] Re: Raymond Ibrahim: New Saudi Fatwa Defends Pedophilia as >‘Marriage’ > > > >Yang salah tuh kamu ! Jelas sekali anak INGUSAN tak boleh dikawin donk !! >*Ukurannya adalah AKIL baligh ! Dan Nabi kawin dengan aisyah memenuhi >persyaratan itu ! Kamu hanya ingin maki dan hujat ISLAM maka UMUR jadi UKURAN >!!! dasar manusia yang sering digoblikkin orang ! > >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@...> wrote: >> >> Islam itu ngehalalin pedophilia dgn bilang ga ada batas usia buat anak >> cewek unt diembat. Jadi halal ngembat anak ingusan umur berapa aja >> selama si anak itu secara fisik "mampu", ga peduli kalo si anak itu >> masih belum menstruasi. >> >> Hehehe.... apa ini Islam Arab dan bukan Islam yg sebenarnya? >> >> Quran bilang bhw anak yg belum mens itu halal diembat, dan hadis udah >> nunjukin contoh gimana anak ingusan diembat oleh nabi islam merupakan suri >> tauladan orang Islam, jadi jelas bhw Islam itu ngehalalin pedophilia, bukan >> sekedar Islam Arab. >> >> Gua jamin, krn si habe keparat ga bisa ngebantah, dia cuma akan kaing2 >> ngefitnah (kalo dia ngasih tanggapan). Dan krn si habe keparat tukang fitnah >> itu masih terus Islam dan dia pasti tau nabinya itu ngembat anak ingusan, >> dgn sendirinya akan timbul pertanyaan, apa si habe ini pedophile? >> >> >> >> Raymond Ibrahim: New Saudi Fatwa Defends Pedophilia as ‘Marriage’ >> Muslim “child-marriageâ€� â€" euphemism for pedophilia â€" is making >> headlines again, at least in Arabic media: Dr. Salih bin Fawzan, a prominent >> cleric and member of Saudi Arabia’s highest religious >> council, just issued a fatwa asserting that there is no minimum age for >> marriage, and that girls can be married “even if they are in the >> cradle.â€� >> Appearing in Saudi papers on July 13, the fatwa complains that “Uninformed >> interference with >> Sharia rulings by the press and journalists is on the increase, posing >> dire consequences to society, including their interference with the >> question of marriage to small girls who have not reached maturity, and >> their demand that a minimum age be set for girls to marry.â€� >> Fawzan insists that nowhere does Sharia set an age limit for marrying girls: >> like countless Muslim scholars before him, he relies on Koran >> 65:4, which discusses marriage to females who have not yet begun >> menstruating (i.e., are prepubescent) and the fact that Muhammad, >> Islam’s role model, married Aisha when she was 6 years old, >> “consummatingâ€� the marriage â€" or, in modern parlance, raping her â€" >> when she was 9. >> The point of the Saudi fatwa, however, is not that girls as young as 9 can >> have sex, based on Muhammad’s example, but rather that there is no >> age limit whatsoever; the only question open to consideration is whether the >> girl is physically capable of handling her husband/rapist. Fawzan >> documents this point by quoting Ibn Batal’s authoritative exegesis of >> Sahih Bukhari: >> The ulema [Islam’s interpreters] have agreed that it is permissible >> for fathers to marry off their small daughters, even if they are in the >> cradle. But it is not permissible for their husbands to have sex with >> them unless they are capable of being placed beneath and bearing the >> weight of the men. And their capability in this regard varies based on >> their nature and capacity. Aisha was 6 when she married the prophet, but he >> had sex with her when she was 9 [i.e., when she was deemed capable]. >> Fawzan concludes his fatwa with a warning: “It behooves those who >> call for setting a minimum age for marriage to fear Allah and not >> contradict his Sharia, or try to legislate things Allah did not permit. >> For laws are Allah’s province; and legislation is his excusive right, to >> be shared by none other. And among these are the rules governing >> marriage.â€� >> Fawzan, of course, is not the first to insist on the legitimacy of >> pedophilia in Islam. Even the former grand mufti of Saudi Arabia supported >> “child-marriage,â€� since “the Koran and Sunna document it.â€� >> Nor is this just some theoretical, theological point; the lives of >> many young girls are being destroyed because of this ruling. Recall, for >> instance, the 13-year-old girl who died while her much older husband >> was copulating with her (it was later revealed that, due to her >> reluctance, he was tying her up and “rapingâ€� her â€" as if there were >> another way to describe sex with children); or the 12-year-old who died >> giving birth to a stillborn; or the 10-year-old who made headlines by hiding >> out from her 80-year-old “husband.â€� >> Then there are the countless anonymous girls who do nothing to >> warrant any media attention â€" such as die â€" and have learned to live >> with their elderly husbands pawing at them, like, no doubt, the girl who >> married Islam’s most popular cleric, Yusuf Qaradawi, when she was 14. >> What do we make of the fact that it is always Islam’s religious, >> authoritative voices â€" not aberrant voices, not “terrorists,â€� >> “extremists,â€� or any other euphemism coined for the occasion â€" that >> are >> constantly demonstrating Sharia’s savageries? Weeks before this fatwa, a >> female politician and activist in Kuwait called for institutionalizing >> sex-slavery (recommending that Muslims buy and sell female Russian captives >> from >> the Chechnya war); a popular Egyptian preacher not only said the same >> thing, but added that the solution to Islam’s poverty is to go on jihad >> and plunder the lives and possessions of infidels. >> Sounds odd? Perhaps; but it is perfectly consistent. After all, >> distilled and in the eyes of the non-believer, Sharia law is nothing >> less than a legal system built atop the words and deeds of a 7th century >> Arab, whose behavior â€" from pedophilia and sex-slavery to war mongering >> and plundering â€" was very much that of a 7th century Arab. Having enticed >> or enslaved his contemporaries into >> following him, his teachings continue to entice and enslave their >> descendants; and, now as then, it is always the innocent who suffer.Posted >> by Raymond on July 21, 2011 11:47 AM | 13 Comments >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! 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