Ada lagi pameran ketololan Islam dan orang Islam.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/147506 Can the Saudis See the Difference between Saturn and the Moon? The Muslim world is in an uproar over the possibility they celebrated instead of fasting because Saturn was identified as the moon. By Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu First Publish: 9/4/2011, 10:58 AM Saturn - or the moon? Israel news photo: Flash 90 The Muslim world is in an uproar over the possibility they celebrated instead of fasting because Saturn was identified as the moon. If the new moon marking the end of the fast days of the month of Ramadan was cited incorrectly, Muslims would have committed the sin of celebrating the start of Eid al-Fitr on a day on which they should have fasted. The Fars News Agency of predominantly Shi’ite Muslim Iran, which is in a constant feud with the Sunni-led Saudi Arabia monarchy, charged that the Jeddah Astronomy Society made a colossal mistake and caused other Muslim nations to pronounce Tuesday as Eid al Fitr. “The society had said that people actually saw the planet Saturn and not the crescent moon that marks the beginning of the Islamic month of Shawwal,” the government-controlled news agency reported. Hatem Auda, director of the National Institute for Astronomical and Geophysical Research, had said that astronomical calculations by scientists of the institute noted that the first day of the Eid was Wednesday, August 31, making Tuesday, August 30 the last day of Ramadan. It claimed that the Saudi government apologized and will pay citizens money as compensation for the sin of breaking the fast a day early. However, the Egyptian Fatwa Authority told the country’s Al Masry Al Youm newspaper, "The crescent was clearly seen with the naked eye… "There are seven committees made up of the finest astronomers that view the crescent… and they coordinate with each other before they take a collective decision, so as to avoid error." Maged Abu Zahra, director of the Jedda Astronomy Society explained that all astronomers in the Arab world sighting the crescent in Saudi Arabia on the same night would be impossible. More on this topic * Syrian Unrest Spills Blood in Lebanon * Arab MK Wants Punishment to ‘Nakba Deniers’ * Former Czech Leader Charged for Calling Islam an Enemy * Muslim Threat Forces Glenn Beck Rally off Temple Mount * Ramadan Travel Advice Includes Warning not to Chew Gum >________________________________ >From: Bukan Pedanda <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Monday, September 5, 2011 3:47 AM >Subject: [proletar] Re: Astronomer threatened with lawsuit for doubting Eid >moon sighting > > > > >Apakah kita mau ketawa atau nangis membaca berita ketololan orang Islam ini? > >Dan masihkah mereka percaya bahwa buku taik onta al-Mushaf itu berisi wahyu >Allah yang nota bene tidak berbukti ada itu? > >--- In [email protected], "Sunny" <ambon@...> wrote: >> >> , mana yang tepat?. >> >> >> http://arabnews.com/saudiarabia/article497239.ece >> >> Astronomer threatened with lawsuit for doubting Eid moon sighting >> By MD HUMAIDAN | ARAB NEWS >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Published: Sep 3, 2011 23:40 Updated: Sep 3, 2011 23:40 >> >> JEDDAH: A number of conservative scholars have threatened to sue Saudi >> astronomer and scientist Khaled Al-Zaaq for doubting the testimony of >> citizens who reported to the Hilal panel (moon sighting committee) that the >> Shawwal crescent was visible on Ramadan 29 (Aug. 29). >> >> After confirming the veracity of the sighting by the people who had reported >> to the panel, the committee declared the end to the fasting month of Ramadan >> and signaled the advent of Eid Al-Fitr the next day (Tuesday). >> >> The threats of action came amidst an ongoing debate between Muslim scholars >> and astronomers about the possibility and probability of sighting the moon >> on Aug. 29. The astronomers claim the moon could not be sighted on that day >> as it had eclipsed before sunset. >> >> According to the Islamic calendar, the Arabic months can be either 29 or 30 >> days long. On many occasions, Eid has been celebrated after only 29 days of >> fasting. >> >> But this year the debate turned heated after Al-Zaaq was widely quoted by >> local press and electronic sites that there was no way to sight the crescent >> on the night of Ramadan 29, thus casting doubts on the testimony of those >> who claimed to have seen it. >> >> The purists said the astronomer should not have cast doubts on the >> testimonies of the people who sighted the moon because their antecedents are >> checked before their word is accepted. Those who call in after sighting the >> moon are known for their integrity and straightforwardness. >> >> A number of Saudi astronomers had issued press statements claiming that the >> moon could not be sighted while renowned Islamic scholars defended the >> testimonies of the people who sighted the moon and said Eid came at the >> right time. >> >> Grand Mufti Sheikh Abdul Aziz bin Abdullah Al-Asheikh in his Friday sermon >> at Imam Turki bin Abdullah Mosque in Riyadh described those who doubted the >> moon sighting as "motivated and deviated people with foul mouths." >> >> "There are unjust pens and foul tongues that cast doubt on our religion >> which should be silenced. We are strictly following the Sunnah of our >> Prophet in fasting and marking Eid days," he said, accusing the doubting >> astronomers of trying to impose their opinions on the nation. >> >> The mufti said the Shariah was clear in the procedures of moon sighting and >> added that Muslims would never give up the Sunnah for false opinions. >> >> The moon was very clear the next day and was seen in various areas on >> Tuesday night. This supported the stand of those who said they had sighted >> the moon on Monday evening. >> >> A number of citizens in the western Al-Ais area said they were able to sight >> the moon on the night of Monday for half an hour. Their testimony >> contradicts the claims of the astronomers who said that the moon could not >> be sighted. >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
