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Tp kayaknya sih si Abbas Amin bilang bhw orang Shia itu bukan orang Islam, maka orang Islam Sunni yg ngebunuh orang Shia ga dianggap sbg bajingan oleh Abbas Amin, sebaliknya orang Shia yg ngebunuh orang Sunni adalah bajingan. Hehehe... akhirnya Abbas Amin ngasih pencerahan. >________________________________ > From: Abbas <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 11:11 AM >Subject: [proletar] Re: Kuwaiti Shaykh Explains and Justifies Islamic >"Pleasure Marriages" > > > >Pernyataan yng sudah dijawab sendiri oleh si Debil ! Dasar si Debil memang bak >anjing kena rabies, yng menggonggong salh waktu ! > >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@...> wrote: >> >> Jadi kalo orang Sunni ngebantai orang Shia, maka orang Sunni ga akan >> dianggap sbg bajingan oleh Abbas Amin. >> >> Sebaliknya kalo orang Shia ngebantai orang Sunni, maka si orang Shia akan >> dianggap sbg bajingan oleh Abbas Amin. >> >> >> Tentunya si habe akan ngedukung si Abbas Amin, hehehe... >> >> >> >> >> >________________________________ >> > From: Bukan Pedanda <bukan.pedanda@...> >> >To: [email protected] >> >Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 10:31 AM >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Kuwaiti Shaykh Explains and Justifies Islamic >> >"Pleasure Marriages" >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >Ah, syiah itu bukan Islam... >> > >> >--- In [email protected], "Abbas" <abas_amin08@> wrote: >> >> >> >> Siapa bilang itu sesuai dengan ajaran Islam !? Itu cocoknya dengan ajaran >> >> SYIAH, tahu ?! >> >> >> >> --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > Hehehe... cuma Islam yg bisa ngasih solusi ke orang2 gila sex gimana >> >> > cara muasin nafsu gila sex orang2 tsb, bukan? >> >> > >> >> > Apa beda pelacuran dgn kawin muta atau kawin Islami dgn rencana bininya >> >> > langsung akan diceraikan setelah puas? Kagak ada, kecuali yg dua >> >> > disebut belakangan itu sesuai dgn hukum auloh dan ajaran Islam. >> >> > >> >> > Islam itu emang agama yg benar unt para bajingan gila sex, pedophile, >> >> > tukang merkosa dll. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > http://www.translatingjihad.com/2011/11/kuwaiti-shaykh-handful-of-dates-is.html >> >> > >> >> > Tuesday, November 22, 2011 >> >> > Kuwaiti Shaykh Explains and Justifies Islamic "Pleasure Marriages" >> >> > Posted by Translating Jihad >> >> > >> >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqRfhlYQo2w&feature=player_embedded >> >> > >> >> > Translated from video clip posted to YouTube, 17 July 2011 >> >> > >> >> > In the above video, Kuwaiti Shaykh Yasir al-Habib, a Shi'a, explains >> >> > and justifies the Islamic practice of zawaj al-mut'a, or temporary >> >> > marriage (lit. 'pleasure marriage'), which is in a sense >> >> > Islamically-sanctioned prostitution. In the longer clip which I took >> >> > this excerpted portion from, Shaykh al-Habib starts out by saying that >> >> > Sunnis often try to embarrass Shi'a by saying that they're going to >> >> > marry their sisters in a pleasure marriage. >> >> > >> >> > Al-Habib responds by saying that, first of all, in Islam a brother has >> >> > no authority over the actions of his sister. And secondly, he contends >> >> > that Sunnis want him to deny pleasure marriage simply because some >> >> > people find it repulsive, to which he counters that "the Messenger of >> >> > Allah didn't find it repulsive." Then he turns the argument around, >> >> > explaining that Sunnis attempt to deny pleasure marriage while accepting >> >> > marriage with the intent to divorce, which is essentially the same >> >> > thing. >> >> > >> >> > He also brings up a hadith or saying from one of the companions of >> >> > Muhammad, who said that, "We contracted temporary marriage giving a >> >> > handful of the dates or flour as a dower during the life time of Allah's >> >> > Messenger (may peace be upon him) and during the time of Abu Bakr until >> >> > Umar forbade it because of Amr Ibn Huraith" (from al-islam.org). The >> >> > last point about Umar forbidding it is where most Shi'a and Sunnis >> >> > disagree--the Shi'a don't accept Umar as a legitimate caliph or >> >> > successor to Muhammad, while the Sunnis do. >> >> > >> >> > Subtitled video is above, transcript below (h/t Nonie Darwish): >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > I tell him, “Come on, if you’re a man, then give me your sister in >> >> > marriage, a marriage with the intent of divorcing after one night.” I >> >> > could imagine something like that, now that you mention it. You know? >> >> > Now, even if you find this repulsive, the Messenger of Allah didn’t >> >> > find it repulsive. The Messenger of Allah approved this marriage by >> >> > recognizing it. The Messenger of Allah permitted and authorized >> >> > (temporary) pleasure marriages. Now even if they later put it in a >> >> > written hadith that he later forbade pleasure marriages, the important >> >> > thing is that it was present (during the time of the Prophet). >> >> > >> >> > >If the marriage was by nature considered repulsive by the Shari’ah, >> >> > meaning it was not pleasing to Almighty Allah and His Messenger (PBUH), >> >> > then the Prophet from the beginning would not have permitted it. Why did >> >> > he permit it? I mean, it wasn’t considered contrary to the honor of >> >> > Muslim women. Why did he authorize his companions to marry Muslim women >> >> > for a short time, and to “enjoy them (sexually),” [Qur’an 4:24] even >> >> > with a handful of dates? A handful of dates is given to any woman to >> >> > enjoy her sexually, that’s it. If you say that this is adultery, then >> >> > you’re accusing the Messenger (PBUH) of adultery, or that he legitimized >> >> > adultery. If you say this is repulsive, you’re accusing the Messenger >> >> > (PBUH) of being repulsive, or that the Messenger of Allah legitimized >> >> > that which is repulsive, Allah forbid. Is it not so? >> >> > >> >> > >Pleasure marriage came to solve a societal problem. It doesn’t mean >> >> > >that >> >> > it always has to be applied. However, if my sister did that, according >> >> > to its rules and laws, whether she were a widow and her husband had >> >> > passed away, or she were divorced, and so forth; if she needed it (for >> >> > whatever reason), then this marriage would be according to the tradition >> >> > (sunnah) of Allah and His Messenger (PBUH). There is no shame in this. >> >> > No shame at all. >> >> > >> >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
