Hello all, Thanks for your views, i wanted to state that as i initially thought to keep these videos as just complementary part as stated, apart from official documentation ( as mentioned by Julius himself as well ). I also agree to both Julien and Julius about the points stated that keeping videos updated and upto certain quality measure which could be tough, but for that we can set some basic benchmarks while making videos, like what type of content should be used, ( whether it is animation, screen recording, casual explanation, hands-on or combinations of these ), periodicity at which these videos might get updated, ( or might involve some new changes which get into production after new version release ).
Julien, I know there are playlist and many vidoes for these purposes as well but they have downside of their own : * Some of these talks and videos which are stated are being old enough as in current times new versions of Prometheus services might got update/upgrade in some/new feature. * Some of these playlist ( or courses ) are paid, and which might not be good option for new comers. ( also it doesn't correlate with "open source" that generally being practiced by Prometheus community ). * People would generally follow tutorials from standard and official product maintainers as compared to third party or individual content ( if they are of good quality ). And these unofficial guides might not be of that helpful as well as they may get outdated too. So what we could do, as Krasi mentioned that we could have some learning environment where we could deploy resources for learning concepts and these environments would be better option, serving as complementary to official documentation. On Monday, March 2, 2020 at 9:24:57 PM UTC+5:30, Krasi Georgiev wrote: > > I saw that Thanos uses https://www.katacoda.com/ and maybe that would be > a better options than videos which might be outdated quite fast. > > > On Mar 2 2020, at 5:31 pm, Julius Volz <[email protected] <javascript:>> > wrote: > > Not that I'm aware of. We have a couple of early talks on > https://prometheus.io/docs/introduction/media/, but it's pretty dated. > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 4:26 PM Matthias Rampke <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > > Do we have a somewhat up-to-date curated list of Prometheus-related talks > / recordings that are already around? > > /MR > > On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 8:45 AM Julius Volz <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > > I always wanted to create some YouTube videos covering certain topics, but > never did it yet because I have certain quality expectations, and it costs > a lot of (free and unpaid) time and energy to create good videos. Videos > have some upsides like being able to visualize and quickly demonstrate > things via screencasts, animations, etc., or just by more casual > explanation than in a documentation. > > But they also have a bunch of downsides, like: > > - It's almost impossible to keep them up to date unless you have a > professional video recording team re-recording things whenever something > changes. > - It's harder with videos to just skim a topic quickly and find just the > information you care about (for that, written documentation is usually > easier). > - They generally just take a large effort to do properly, and the joy and > use you get from them as a learner really depends a lot on the quality of > the instructor and the video production quality. > > I'd still love to explain certain topics via video at some point if I find > the time and energy, but it would probably never be able to be a > replacement for documentation, just explaining certain key concepts or > demoing how to set up Prometheus in various ways, etc. So more of a > complementary resource. > > On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 10:25 PM apoorve kalot <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > > Hello all, > > I have some ideas which i want to work upon, under Prometheus, i don't > know if it would be of that level, but i need of opinion of your all. > > The idea is, *developing a series of official YouTube tutorials which > will be part of official Documentation* for working and playing with > Prometheus, like from basics of node exporter to writing custom exporter in > custom language, or working with 3rd party exporters, > > *Why it is necessary/ should be done* : In the community IRC, there are > times when people might ask a information, which might be redundant, or > might be useful to other user at later point of time, and these tutorials, > or videos about basic misconceptions, would help to clear all these related > problems > > *Example* : Some of the other open source communities have these playlist > as part of official documentation, which helps community as well, along > with people who want use/contribute to the product itself, like Kubernetes, > TensorFlow, etc. > > *Advantages of using it* : > * The Redundant discussion of basic usage of Prometheus and other related > tools. > * Would indirectly help in extending support to community itself, and thus > would also help in getting new members/contributors which might turn into > individual maintainers as well. > * Learning through videos is more efficient as compared to documentation, > or written stuff [ for this opinion not all might be in favor, but everyone > would agree about the fact that former is faster than latter one ]. For > serious bugs and problems, one can always refer and ask help back from > Prometheus community IRC. > > These videos, other than basic implementation, would also contain basic > practices which involves while using Prometheus and it's services. > > Note : i haven't have selected the specifics topics which should be > included in these videos, but i would be asking other > Developers/Maintainers of the Prometheus as well as regular users of > Prometheus. 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