On 2020-05-28 23:36, Richard Hartmann wrote:
The current situation is what I want to avoid with my suggestion.

Short-circuiting discussions directly into votes, potentially after
mere hours, is not healthy for the project long term and likely
reflects frustrations built up over time.

Voting results are also harder to adapt and evolve as they will need
new votes, not just consensus, to change. This might not be a problem
in the two current well-scoped votes at the moment, but it will become
one more and more over time.

While I can understand the underlying motivations for quick voting on
ALL the things I would much prefer to fix the default mechanism,
consensus, over moving to a different one, voting ,as the new default.


That sounds like a different issue to changing the definition of consensus.

Maybe the voting process should have a third option which isn't a yes or a no, but a "go back to discussion"?

Or you have some criteria (time, etc) which is needed to call a vote (although that can also bring difficulties).

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Stuart Clark

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