Oh, well.  Bad ideas never die.  They just get recycled :-(    Or reborn.
Hey, maybe that's why they call it "Phoenix"!

IMO, most all-in-one files suck.  Does the Windows registry come to mind?
Corruption of a single file can ruin the whole system and it's applications.
The all-in-one file concept has been refuted long ago.  Look at the
Unix/Linux system:  lots of little configuration files.  It's hard to
remember where they are, but at least you don't have to search through
unrelated stuff inside the file, and corruption of that one file won't ruin
the entire system.

However, I do like Protel's DDB file, for the most part.  The only thing I
can't stand about it is that if you merely open it to look at what's inside,
it updates the file date and time.  Ridiculous!

Best regards,
Ivan Baggett
Bagotronix Inc.
website:  www.bagotronix.com


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Fearon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Altium preps topological autorouter


> Mike
> You are right. But does this "Integrated" library sound like a "copy" of
Pads?
> You know the "all-in-one library", that can"t be used.
> Of course the "Manager" concept comes from Accel, oh yeah.
> Sounds like a staight marketing scheme.
>
> Bob Fearon
>
>
> Mike Reagan wrote:
>
> > Great!  They are also integrating the library probably like the
integration
> > nightmare in ACCEL.    Right now I can create a part, store it, create
and
> > copy separate  customer libraries, import netlist from other programs,
with
> > or without a part assignment.      Somehow one of these features will be
> > lost with the new "INTEGRATED" library.    They are attempting to sell
> > software to managers instead of designers.   Someone got a bug somewhere
> > along the line that integrated libs are best.      Oh did I mention the
> > simplicity of creating a part and not having to play  and dick with all
of
> > the silly worthless menus afterwards. Like assigning it to CON, or IC
like
> > PADS.  or stupid prefixes like R or C, U etc like Accel.  It means more
time
> > to create a part.
> >
> > What could be simpler and faster than create a part, import a netlist
that
> > associates the part, the netlist assigns the Ref designator?   I don't
get
> > it.  I'm just a simpleton.
> > The autorouter is welcomed! The lib manager is overhead.    That right
the
> > name is lib MANAGER, that's all I need is  to spend more time managing.
> >
> > Mike Reagan
> > EDSI
> > Frederick MD
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Jim Labrecque <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Protel EDA Forum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 12:17 PM
> > Subject: [PEDA] Altium preps topological autorouter
> >
> > > Press release in EE Times-
> > >
> > >  http://www.eetimes.com/story/design/OEG20011210S0059
> > >
>

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