It is also instructive to note that the Forum administrator has stated my
own premise. 

By the way, making a typing error, unlike cognitive disfunction, is not
indicitive of stupidity.

Your point?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Moreton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 12:32 PM
> To: 'Protel EDA Forum'
> Subject: Re: [PEDA] Protel EDA Forum... was adjacent component placeme
> nt D XP
> 
> 
> Jason, 
> 
> It is instructive to note that in your post, you took the time to
> actually answer Dr Roberts question, very fully. Mr Jenkins 
> replied only
> to be offensive by inferring that you were " ignornat " (sic), and he
> did not contribute anything to the original question.....
> 
> Peter Moreton 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason Morgan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 09 July 2003 16:15
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [PEDA] Protel EDA Forum... was adjacent component placeme
> nt D XP
> 
> Andrew, 
> 
> Seems somebody got out of the wrong side of the bed this morning....
> 
> After reading my post again, in-case I did make a mistake (it has been
> known
> on several occasions)
> I stand by my response, it was correct in every way and written by an
> experienced,
> user long term member of both lists.
> 
> I was in no way rude or abusive to the original author, nor did I cast
> aspersions
> on the validity of PEDA, indeed, they are providing better support for
> Protel 99se and below
> in a way Protel, pre-Altium never managed (my experience in the UK
> anyway).
> 
> I just pointed out you may get a response from people who know more
> about
> DXP on a
> list maintained for DXP users.  Posting on the official DXP list will
> also
> draw potential
> problems to the attention of Altium's engineers who own and 
> monitor the
> DXP
> list.
> 
> We all know that DXP is (on the surface at least) very different to
> 99se,
> and these questions
> on "how do I....." come up all the time.  It is very important that
> Altium
> are aware of
> such discussions so that they can put effort into improving the
> documentation.
> 
> I think other, (less aggressive) long term users of both lists will
> agree.
> 
> Jason.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 09 July 2003 13:57
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Protel EDA Forum... was RE: [PEDA] adjacent 
> component placement
> D XP
> 
> 
> 
> Mr Morgan,
> 
> Since when is this the "Protel 99SE" list?
> 
> For your future information, this is the Protel EDA Forum, as clearly
> and
> explicity stated in the footer appended to each and every 
> list message,
> and
> kindly maintained by Techserv, Inc for the quasi-public 
> dissemination of
> issues related to any and all versions of Protel EDA software,
> including,
> but not limited to P99SE...AND DXP.
> 
> I think I speak for a portion of this list (though clearly 
> not all) when
> I
> say that I would appreciate it if you would attempt to remember this
> before
> spouting off erroneous garbage like the bull sheisa you post below. In
> any
> case, I speak for myself.
> 
> Finally, I want to be clear to Dr Roberts that this is not 
> the exclusive
> territory of P99SE users, and Dr Roberts is welcome to post queries or
> otherwise participate in this forum as she likes.
> 
> As Jason indicated, there is another forum, sponsored by Altium, which
> is
> dedicated to DXP, but I feel the need to attempt to un-obfuscate the
> distinction between these forums. Altium's is one which is a
> quarantined,
> corporate sponsored list, with all of the implications that 
> go with that
> status. Techserv's is an open user's forum for ANY and ALL Protel EDA
> products, regardless of any ignornat comments made by it's novice or
> jaded
> participants.
> 
> thank you,
> 
> Andrew Jenkins
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jason Morgan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 4:46 AM
> > To: 'Protel EDA Forum'
> > 
> > Firstly you posted to the wrong list, this list is for Protel 
> > 99se, and not
> > DXP,
> > there is a separate list for DXP issues, see
> > http://forums.altium.com/cgi-bin/msgbylist.asp?list=dxp
> > 
> > To answer your question, its the same as in 99se, you create a
> > component-component clearance rule
> > that uses the same component type for each side of the rule.
> > 
> > I use this exact method for a mechanical part that sits over 
> > some LEDs.
> > 
> > e.g.
> > Create a rule in Placement: Component Clearance: New Rule
> > HasFootprint('FOOTPRINT_1') vs HasFootprint('FOOTPRINT_1') 
> you need to
> > specify "Full Check"
> > and a large negative clearance, e.g. -999mm
> > 
> > Make sure that the rule priority puts this rule above the 
> > global clearance
> > rule, Press the Priorities
> > button to check.
> > 
> > Also, make sure that one of the electrical clearance rules 
> > does not also
> > fail, though you should be
> > able to tell the difference of a component clearance fail and 
> > a net fail by
> > the colours on the screen.
> > 
> > Jason.
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dr Gwyn Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 09 July 2003 09:21
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: Aled Williams
> > Subject: [PEDA] adjacent component placement DXP
> > 
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > Need to place a number of terminal blocks in a row, with 
> the body of 
> > each touching that of its neighbour, on a PCB being laid out 
> > in Protel DXP.
> > 
> > Despite setting the electrical placement and component 
> clearance DRCs 
> > for these particular components to 0mm, Protel still flags this a 
> > violation when they are placed next to each other.  .  
> > 
> > Anyone come across this problem/know of a workaround?
> > 
> > Many thanks
> > Gwyn Roberts
> > Univ of Wales, Bangor
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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