> -----Original Message----- > From: Symanski, Jerry SPAWAR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 9:08 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [PEDA] Recommendations please! -- DXP2004 - PADS - Expedition > > Gentlemen, I am currently involved in the all too familiar > task of choosing an EDA tool for our group.
Jerry Do not envy you this task :-) > Our group consists of about 20 engineers. We do small, low > power high density systems consisting of analog and digital > components. We cover the full spectrum from algorithms > through design, fabrication, packaging, programming, testing, > documentation and user interfaces. > > The group has used Protel for many years but now finds > ourselves in need of a complete, full spectrum EDA suite. I think you are looking for something that does not exist. IMO all you can hope for is a best fit for the majority of tasks and a good interface to the other tools you need to get the job done. I would not IMO say that any of the 3 are a complete solution for all aspects of the design cycle. > I am interested in comments, comparisons, recommendations, > etc., from anyone who has experience in using at least two of > the latest versions of Expedition, PADS and Protel suites. You are spreading across quite an expanse of $$$$$$ here, in fact for 20 seats, it is a petty major gap if you are going to enable full seats for everyone. I do not think you need any advice on Protel if you already use it. For multi user environments I am having serious trouble getting DXP2004 integrated within our internal QA system and ISO without bogging everyone down with un-needed caveats and gotcha notices that need to interfere with a natural flow, something as simple as Save or Save as can produce quite different things at project tree level. This overhead is purely a result of the current way in which files are handled within a project and the risk to design integrity through improper following of critical procedures and no redundancy for the integration of remedial loops to make corrective actions (project rebuild). I have been preparing some idea of mine on this but its not ready yet, perhaps I need to get moving before 2005 is released :-) But I would give your Mentor rep a bit of a commitment test up front as you will be paying major $$$ each year for as long as you own the tools, ask them to come in to your site, and survey/recommend tools based on your needs and specifically ask about training. They can tailor a license package for you so you do not need full suites on everyone's desk at same time. For 20 seats of any combination that should be worth their while. If they will not do this much for you, well, Cadence is worth a call too...... I only use Protel and Pads here, but I work with colleagues in Spain who have nearly 70 people in R&D and the whole dept use Mentor productions from end-end. However they do have a warning, they do not speak highly of Mentor support, they prefer to invest in Mentor training for their engineers and then handle product training and support in house. You can draw from that what you will... Sorry for the ramblings.... John * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *