On 27.06.2019 09:58, Horst Gutmann wrote:
> Big +1. If the EuroPython messages are perceived as spam then that's
> more a testament to the otherwise really low traffic here 🙂 @MAL: Keep
> them coming please 🥳

Thank you for the encouragement, Horst !

> Cheers,
> Horst
> 
> On 27.06.19 09:54, Steve Holden wrote:
>> No worries. That's for the PSF to take a view on. I merely commented
>> on my own experience of the list.
>>
>> I'm sure you remember many times in the past when what seemed like a
>> great idea would be floated within the Foundation membership,
>> supported enthusiastically, then wither and die on the vine.
>>
>> That's a fairly healthy sign - many new initiatives, most of which are
>> not expected or required to "succeed" but which will leave ripples in
>> the pond.
>>
>> Sadly, this one appears to be sinking like a stone.
>>
>> I suspect this is because many of those who joined don't feel
>> empowered to post to the list. So the best thing this white male can
>> do is get out of the way.
>>
>> regards
>>  Steve
>> Steve Holden
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 8:35 AM M.-A. Lemburg <m...@python.org
>> <mailto:m...@python.org>> wrote:
>>
>>     I'm sorry if our posts come across as spamming. That is certainly
>>     not our attention.
>>
>>     Since we do believe in the PSF community, we also believe that such
>>     announcements should be sent to this group and, personally, I'd love
>>     to see lots more coming from all kinds of Python events, projects,
>>     etc. A community has to be filled with life, lots of opinions,
>>     discussions and buzz.
>>
>>     If the majority believes that this is not what this mailing list
>>     about, I can remove it from the list of MLs we distribute
>>     announcements to.
>>
>>
>>
>>     On 27.06.2019 09:24, Steve Holden wrote:
>>     > If the community were more active the EuroPython announcements
>>     would be
>>     > lost in the noise.
>>     >
>>     > The fact that they are so prominent is really a measure of the
>>     channel’s
>>     > uselessness. It appears to be little more than window-dresssing:
>>     this is
>>     > clearly not seen as a channel through which to address “the PSF
>>     > community” (whatever that is).
>>     >
>>     > On Thu, 27 Jun 2019 at 07:59, James Bennett <ja...@b-list.org
>>     <mailto:ja...@b-list.org>
>>     > <mailto:ja...@b-list.org <mailto:ja...@b-list.org>>> wrote:
>>     >
>>     >     Since April when the first “website launched” message was
>>     sent, 65%
>>     >     of all new threads posted to the psf-community list have been
>>     >     EuroPython announcements.
>>     >
>>     >     At this point I believe EuroPython announcements either
>>     outnumber,
>>     >     or are close to outnumbering, posts about all other PyCons
>>     combined.
>>     >
>>     >     Please consider starting a separate EuroPython announcements
>>     mailing
>>     >     list and inviting people who are interested to subscribe to
>>     it, as
>>     >     at this point the volume of EuroPython announcements sent to
>>     >     psf-community is, in my opinion, well over the line into
>>     spamming.
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >     > On Jun 26, 2019, at 1:28 AM, M.-A. Lemburg <m...@python.org
>>     <mailto:m...@python.org>
>>     >     <mailto:m...@python.org <mailto:m...@python.org>>> wrote:
>>     >     >
>>     >     > We are pleased to announce the mobile conference app for
>>     EuroPython
>>     >     > 2019, again hosted on the Attendify platform:
>>     >     >
>>     >     >
>>     >     >                   EuroPython 2019 Conference App
>>     >     >
>>     >     >       * https://ep2019.europython.eu/events/conference-app/ *
>>     >     >
>>     >     >
>>     >     > Engage with the conference and its attendees
>>     >     > --------------------------------------------
>>     >     >
>>     >     > The mobile app gives you access to the conference schedule
>>     (even
>>     >     > offline), helps you in planing your conference experience
>>     (create your
>>     >     > personal schedule with reminders) and provides a rich social
>>     >     > engagement platform for all attendees.
>>     >     >
>>     >     > You can create a profile within the app or link this to
>>     your existing
>>     >     > social accounts, share messages and photos, and easily
>>     reach out to
>>     >     > other fellow attendees - all from within the app.
>>     >     >
>>     >     > Vital for all EuroPython 2019 attendees
>>     >     > ---------------------------------------
>>     >     >
>>     >     > We will again use the conference app to keep you updated
>>     by sending
>>     >     > updates of the schedule and inform you of important
>>     announcements via
>>     >     > push notifications, so please consider downloading it.
>>     >     >
>>     >     > Many useful features
>>     >     > --------------------
>>     >     >
>>     >     > Please see our EuroPython 2019 Conference App page for
>>     more details on
>>     >     > features and guides on how to use them.
>>     >     >
>>     >     >    https://ep2019.europython.eu/events/conference-app/
>>     >     >
>>     >     >
>>     >     > Don’t forget to get your EuroPython ticket
>>     >     > ------------------------------------------
>>     >     >
>>     >     > If you want to join the EuroPython fun, be sure to get
>>     your tickets as
>>     >     > soon as possible.
>>     >     >
>>     >     >    https://ep2019.europython.eu/registration/buy-tickets/
>>     >     >
>>     >     >
>>     >     > Dates and Venues
>>     >     > ----------------
>>     >     >
>>     >     > EuroPython will be held from July 8-14 2019 in Basel,
>>     Switzerland, at
>>     >     > the Congress Center Basel (CCB) for the main conference
>>     days (Wed-Fri)
>>     >     > and the FHNW Muttenz for the workshops/trainings/sprints days
>>     >     > (Mon-Tue, Sat-Sun).
>>     >     >
>>     >     > The schedule is available at:
>>     >     >
>>     >     >    https://ep2019.europython.eu/events/schedule/
>>     >     >
>>     >     > Tickets can be purchased on our registration page:
>>     >     >
>>     >     >    https://ep2019.europython.eu/registration/buy-tickets/
>>     >     >
>>     >     > For more details, please have a look at our website and
>>     the FAQ:
>>     >     >
>>     >     >    https://ep2019.europython.eu/faq
>>     >     >
>>     >     >
>>     >     > Help spread the word
>>     >     > --------------------
>>     >     >
>>     >     > Please help us spread this message by sharing it on your
>>     social
>>     >     > networks as widely as possible. Thank you !
>>     >     >
>>     >     > Link to the blog post:
>>     >     >
>>     >     >
>>     >   
>>      
>> https://blog.europython.eu/post/185858710877/europython-2019-mobile-conference-app-available
>>     >     >
>>     >     > Tweet:
>>     >     >
>>     >     > https://twitter.com/europython/status/1143796573702434817
>>     >     >
>>     >     >
>>     >     > Enjoy,
>>     >     > --
>>     >     > EuroPython 2019 Team
>>     >     > https://ep2019.europython.eu/
>>     >     > https://www.europython-society.org/
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