Hi Slau,

NO apology needed. I was just reporting to the list so that other people can know about it. Another thing is that I couldn't access AAX plugins on the latest pt 10.3.8 on Lion either. Not all plugins are converted to AAX, so you might had access to parameters on the old plugin like deverb. However, all the new AAX plugins like channel strip and air stuff are not accessible unless you make PT to fall back to old plugins by deleting those aax plugin from the library folder. I guess people should either stay in PT 10 using rtas plugins on Lion, or upgrade to pt 11.1.2 on Mavericks.
I hope this clarifies the upgrade path for blind users.

Chi

On 1/22/2014 10:20 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
Hi Chi,

Thanks for that confirmation. Again, sorry i didn't properly warn you ahead of time on that one. I was focused on Mavericks the entire time and fell under the presumption that all was the same under Mountain Lion. Duly noted.

Best,

Slau

On Jan 22, 2014, at 7:33 AM, Chi Kim <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hi Slau,

Yes, it seems like some of the fixes are applied to Mavericks only.
I can't confirm with Mavericks, but this is what I gathered so far after trying pt 11.1.2 with Mountain Lion 10.8.5.
counter displays: read
Aax plugin Parameter: Read
Button state: don't read
Track list Table: Don't read
The recommendation would be to avoid Mountain Lion and upgrade to Mavericks with PT 11.1.2.

Chi

On 1/22/2014 12:45 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
Hi Chi,

Ah, now I now that this is a VoiceOver issue because the same version of Pro Tools running under Mavericks as opposed to Mountain Lion does not exhibit the same problem. This was the case with counter displays not being read and buttons not revealing their states.

Indeed, clicking on the first column of that table will show or hide the track. Unfortunately, you won't know whether it's shown unless you either check the mixer section or move to the second column and bring up the contextual menu which would certainly make you want to shoot yourself to go through that tediousness.

Maybe the school will make an exception for you and install Mavericks on just one machine? That might be asking too much, I suppose. Anyway, hang in there and thanks for letting me know about the ML behavior.

Cheers,

Slau

On Jan 22, 2014, at 12:19 AM, Chi Kim <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hi Slau,

When I'm inside the track list table and move VO cursor, VO only says something like column 1 row 1, column 2 row 2, column 1 row 2, and so on. VO reports the track name outside track list table though. If I click on the first column for each row inside the track list table, it show/hide the track. However, VO says selected empty cell. Another thing I found is that VO no longer reports whether something is selected or not. All the toggles on the edit view. I.E. tab to transients, midi mirror editing, and so on. Fortunately VO seems to read the plugins parameter fine under Mountain Lion. Yea! I just clean installed Mountain Lion and updated to 10.8.5, and the only program I have is PT11. The reason I'm on Mountain Lion is that the school doesn't support Mavericks yet.

Chi

On 1/21/2014 10:43 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
Hi chi,

That's surprising. I only tested PT 11 under Mountain Lion before major work was done. After that, I only had it running under Mavericks. I do believe others had tested it under Mountain Lion, however. Are you aware that the track list table in PT 11 was rewritten so that the show/hide control and name appeared as separate items, right? You're not seeing anything but reports of what column and row you're on? That's bizarre.

Has anyone else seen this under Mountain Lion?

Slau

On Jan 21, 2014, at 8:17 PM, Chi Kim <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Thanks Slau, that's good to know.
I just installed Pro Tools 11.1.2 on Mountain Lion. One thing I noticed right away is that VoiceOver doesn't read the track list table. It just says what column and row I'm on instead of the track name. Do you know if this is Mountain Lion only issue, or it's the same for Mavericks?
Thanks,

Chi

On 1/21/2014 2:34 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
Works with Mountain Lion, too.

Slau

On Jan 21, 2014, at 2:32 PM, Chi Kim <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hi All,

Does latest update PT11 work with Mountain Lion, or the accessibility fixes only work with Mavericks?
Thanks,

Chi


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