very cool!
psst. any news from iLok?
At 12:27 PM 9/26/2014, you wrote:
Folks,
One of the features for which I've been campaigning on the
accessibility with on the Pro Tools front has been the nudge value
field. In earlier versions of Pro Tools, it was not specifically
accessible but one could at least press the button, type a value,
press Return and at least the custom field was entered and one could
go about their business with the new nudge value. Now, if you don't
know why a custom nudge value is important, never mind for now and
trust me when I say that it'll save your ass at some point, guaranteed.
well, in Pro Tools 11, the interface changed a bit and now at least
we could see the Nudge Controls button which popped up the format
selection and default values. Thing is, now we couldn't enter the
custom value. I submitted a bug report and nothing seemed to change
because other items like the MIDI Event List took precedence, understandably.
Well, only yesterday, I stumbled upon what I can only call a
discovery, for lack of a better word because it was truly hidden.
Unfortunately, a bit of a misnomer was incorporated when one of the
programmers worked on the nudge and grid controls. In the edit
window, there is a Grid/Nudge cluster. That naming convention was
inherited from the initial work of PT accessibility in version 8.
When interacting, you find 3 items labeled "Show Grid Lines" (which
is either selected or not), "Grid Controls button" and "Nudge
Controls button" Clicking on the first button toggles its state of
either showing or not showing grid lines in the timeline. Clicking
either of the two remaining buttons pops up a list of formats and
default values as mentioned earlier.
Yesterday, as I was making a macro to double-click on the nudge
value field to at least be able to once again enter custom nudge
values, I needed to quickly navigate to the Nudge Control button and
so I brought up the Item Chooser list and typed n u d g e.
Surprisingly, the list contained several items rather than just the
one I was expecting. It contained a text field labeled "Nudge" and a
numeric field labeled "Nudge value." I had never seen this before
and was stunned. To my astonishment, having selected the nudge value
field, I purposely stopped interacting with the control to see where
it was nested. To my surprise, it was nested in the "Nudge Controls
button." Well, of course, a VoiceOver user would never think to
interact with a button because that's not the function of a button.
In fact, upon retrying with another session, simply navigating to
the Nudge Controls button and interacting with it simply interacts
with the title of the button itself rather than its alleged
contents. Bringing up the Item Chooser, however, indeed exposes the
hidden controls. Further, once accessed, interacting and exiting
interaction with the button seems to traverse the levels repeatedly.
Bottom line is, if you need to type a custom nudge value, and I
promise you, you will at some point, use the Item Chooser to get to
the Nudge Value numeric field, click once and type the custom value,
hit Return and be on your way.
This is an issue of nomenclature mostly but also the non-standard
manner in which a control was defined. It's really not a button but
a group of controls or a cluster, if you will. So, it's confusing
until you know what it truly is. I'm explaining this so that, when
others ask, more people on the list know about this quirk. That
said, I'm relieved that the issue of access to the nudge value was
addressed, albeit in a non-standard way, because it's truly one of
the quality-of-life issues that kept me from moving to Pro Tools 11
full time. For me, this was a big one. There are a few others that
are being addressed in beta that will be resolved soon, I'm sure.
Anyway, just sharing the info.
Slau
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