How about spell check? YMMV On Sep 27, 2014, at 2:24 PM, Juan Pablo wrote:
> Slau, sorry for my lack of knoledge. But what's the way to drag and drop from > the clip list? When I talked about drag and drop, I'm reffering to your > second part of your message. > Best, Juan. > > -----Original Message----- From: Slau Halatyn > Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 3:19 PM > To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: discovery about nudge value > > Hi Juan, > > I'm sorry but I don't agree with you. Drag and drop is just something a blind > person cannot do. How would you propose this would work? Cut, copy and paste > is perfectly fine in addition to nudging and spotting. What can't you do in > the timeline with drag and drop that you can't do with the commands I > mentioned? Now, if you're talking about dragging from the Clips list into a > timeline, then yes, there needs to be a more elegant solution th an what we > currently have. I can see that possibly being implemented in the future but > that's a matter of introducing a new way, or at least an alternative way, of > performing specific actions. This would take more resources and more > supporting arguments. > > Slau > > On Sep 27, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Juan Pablo <jpcula...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, Slau. Is fact: protools is advancing to a fully accessible soft. but in >> my opinion, with the time line not accessible, We're lossing at least 50% of >> this powerful tool. Yes, there are lots of sortcuts that made this tings in >> a diferent way. but has the hability to drag and dropp, would be a big jump. >> I hope in pt12 we've good news on this. >> best, Juan. >> -----Original Message----- From: Slau Halatyn >> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 1:27 PM >> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com >> Subject: discovery about nudge value >> >> Folks, >> >> One of the features for which I've been campaigning on the accessibility >> with on the Pro Tools front has been the nudge value field. In earlier >> versions of Pro Tools, it was not specifically accessible but one could at >> least press the button, type a value, press Return and at least the custom >> field was entered and one could go about their business with the new nudge >> value. Now, if you don't know why a custom nudge value is important, never >> mind for now and trust me when I say that it'll save your ass at some point, >> guaranteed. >> >> well, in Pro Tools 11, the interface changed a bit and now at least we could >> see the Nudge Controls button which popped up the format selection and >> default values. Thing is, now we couldn't enter the custom value. I >> submitted a bug report and nothing seemed to change because other items like >> the MIDI Event List took precedence, understandably. >> >> Well, only yesterday, I stumbled upon what I can only call a discovery, for >> lack of a better word because it was truly hidden. Unfortunately, a bit of a >> misnomer was incorporated when one of the programmers worked on the nudge >> and grid controls. In the edit window, there is a Grid/Nudge cluster. That >> naming convention was inherited from the initial work of PT accessibility in >> version 8. When interacting, you find 3 items labeled "Show Grid Lines" >> (which is either selected or not), "Grid Controls button" and "Nudge >> Controls button" Clicking on the first button toggles its state of either >> showing or not showing grid lines in the timeline. Clicking either of the >> two remaining buttons pops up a list of formats and default values as >> mentioned earlier. >> >> Yesterday, as I was making a macro to double-click on the nudge value field >> to at least be able to once again enter custom nudge values, I needed to >> quickly navigate to the Nudge Control button and so I brought up the Item >> Chooser list and typed n u d g e. Surprisingly, the list contained several >> items rather than just the one I was expecting. It contained a text field >> labeled "Nudge" and a numeric field labeled "Nudge value." I had never seen >> this before and was stunned. To my astonishment, having selected the nudge >> value field, I purposely stopped interacting with the control to see where >> it was nested. To my surprise, it was nested in the "Nudge Controls button." >> Well, of course, a VoiceOver user would never think to interact with a >> button because that's not the function of a button. In fact, upon retrying >> with another session, simply navigating to the Nudge Controls button and >> interacting with it simply interacts with the title of the button itself >> rather than its alleged contents. Bringing up the Item Chooser, however, >> indeed exposes the hidden controls. Further, once accessed, interacting and >> exiting interaction with the button seems to traverse the levels repeatedly. >> >> Bottom line is, if you need to type a custom nudge value, and I promise you, >> you will at some point, use the Item Chooser to get to the Nudge Value >> numeric field, click once and type the custom value, hit Return and be on >> your way. >> >> This is an issue of nomenclature mostly but also the non-standard manner in >> which a control was defined. It's really not a button but a group of >> controls or a cluster, if you will. So, it's confusing until you know what >> it truly is. I'm explaining this so that, when others ask, more people on >> the list know about this quirk. That said, I'm relieved that the issue of >> access to the nudge value was addressed, albeit in a non-standard way, >> because it's truly one of the quality-of-life issues that kept me from >> moving to Pro Tools 11 full time. For me, this was a big one. There are a >> few others that are being addressed in beta that will be resolved soon, I'm >> sure. >> >> Anyway, just sharing the info. >> >> Slau >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. 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