Fair point, re-reading it, I think you're right. Even so, it's a riskier strategy to adopt in the first instance than attempting to demonstrate why it's a bad idea with references IMO.
On 2/26/15, Chris Smart <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm not sure the advice was to let the mastering guy fix it, but just > that the mastering guy will probably notice it right away and speak > up. as in, "can we get this fixed by whoever mixed it?" (grin) > > At 02:51 PM 2/26/2015, you wrote: >>I'd love to meet the mastering engineer who can supposedly bring those >>louder than already too loud vocals back down. This is just the same >>thing as saying "fix it in the mix" but one stage removed. IE, not a >>good idea. >> >>My advice is simple. Give him your opinion, along with some reference >>tracks. Ask for references to accompany his opinion too of course. If >>that doesn't cause a change of heart, then unless the guy is an >>absolute ass to work for, your goal should probably be to detach >>yourself from who's right or wrong and not lose the possibility of him >>becoming a repeat client. If that means him butchering his own mix, so >>be it. There'll be other mixes that you'll finish to your satisfaction >>soon enough, and tbh at this stage of the game there's probably >>nothing to stop you from bouncing another version out with the vocals >>where you wanted them to keep on your show reel. One example of that >>working out nicely is that someone on this list has a clip of my band >>on their mastering reel. It wasn't the version the band voted to go >>with, but in my (and presumably his) opinion it's better than the >>version that got released, so why not get some use from it. >> >>Hth a bit, it's a tricky one. >> >>Scott >> >> >>On 2/26/15, Ricky Prevatte <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Do exactly as your customer ask. Now I will tell you the way to get it >> > to >> > work for both you and him. Suggest that he haven't mastered and send >> > the >> > entire project with him to have it mastered.let the person that does >> > the >> > mastering bear the brunt of bringing that vocal back down. You send it >> > out >> > of your studio the way he or she wants it they will be back. If you do >> > not >> > then well they will tell everybody and they won't come as well.I have >> > to >> > remember all of the songs that I have heard and the 50 years I've been >> > on >> > this earth the ab some of them absolutely suck but they are number one >> > hits >> > and I don't have any of those. I need always understand my way is not >> > right >> > it may not be wrong but it may not be right. That is okay if you allow >> > people to express themselves they will be your friend and your >> > advocate. >> > >> > Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154 >> > >> >> On Feb 26, 2015, at 12:30 PM, byron harden <[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Think about buger King. >> >> The client is the boss. >> >> If the mix is great from the start. Than a louder vocal is a teaste >> >> thing. Costumer is always right, even if they know nothing. >> >>> On Feb 26, 2015, at 10:27 AM, Chad Morrison >> >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Hello all, >> >>> I realize I might be out of line here, but I did not know where else >> >>> to >> >>> go to get this kind of advice. A lot of you guys are mixing for >> >>> customers >> >>> on a regular basis and I wanted to get your input. I have a customer >> >>> who >> >>> wants me to turn his vocals up. Which, in my opinion would blow the >> >>> mix. >> >>> This is because I think some of the vocal tracks he wants turned up >> >>> are >> >>> already turned up too loud. In this situation is is a simple case of >> >>> doing what the customer wants, or would I be out of line by trying to >> >>> talk him out of it? I am relatively new to mixing for pay. So, I am >> >>> a >> >>> little unsure on how to proceed here. I hope I have described the >> >>> situation adequately. I would love to know what your guises input >> >>> would >> >>> be in a situation like this. Meaning, how would you handle it? I >> >>> appreciate all your help. This list has been a great help to me. >> >>> Again, >> >>> sorry if I'm out of line here, But like I said I did not know where >> >>> else >> >>> to turn for A question like this. >> >>> Chad >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >>> Groups >> >>> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >> >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> >>> an >> >>> email to [email protected]. >> >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >> Groups >> >> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> >> an >> >> email to [email protected]. >> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > Groups >> > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> > an >> > email to [email protected]. >> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > >> >>-- >>You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>send an email to [email protected]. >>For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. 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