no hitting it harder as in higher signal level!

At 03:37 PM 3/26/2015, you wrote:
When we say hitting a compressor harder, I've never quite understood what that exactly means. Are we saying that we're basically raising the speed of the attack, therefore making it kick in sooner?

Chris.

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Subject: Re: Possibly a very obvious, and maybe stupid question about setting lead vocal levels


When I'm recording myself (not something I'm a fan of), I just play it
uber safe with the meters and concentrate on the actual performance.
It's too easy to get distracted. I'd say set levels using the chorus
and the climax you mentioned, maybe take a slightly longer run at that
part to make sure you're ramping up as much as you're likely to during
an actual take. If your peaks are where you want them to be during
those sections, the verses and other quieter parts will be gravy as we
say here. If you're still nervous, back off the gain a smidgen for
safety. Assuming you've got a relatively clean signal path, a couple
DB less on the way in isn't gonna do anything that can't be
compensated for with a touch of clip gain later on in the process
should you discover that you need to hit a compressor a little harder.

Good luck

Scott

On 3/26/15, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
This might seem to most of you like a very very obvious question, and yeah,
I know ultimately at the end of the day, probably what it's gonna boil down
to is, "Just listen and use your ears," but I have a song I'm going to be
recording.  It really doesn't have much dynamic volume changes in the lead
vocal.  Don't get me wrong, there is! a climax to the song, but pretty much,
for what it's worth, the song stays fairly close to the same level
throughout.

If it helps, so you all can listen to it on Youtube or something, the song
is called Mercy Said No, and it's by Greg Long.

Anyway, I don't want to clip during my recording, and obviously I want
enough wiggleroom before applying any compression, or the like to that vocal
track.  I want to come in probably notch peek around -12DB, no more than -10
pushing it.  That said, seeing this song really doesn't seem to change much
in dynamics, again, it does, but not very much... what is therefore probably
the best way of doing a sound check?  I know how to look at my meters, and
yes, I do have them set to infinity, so that they hold at the peek until I
reset them, but what I'm saying more is, how do I determine what part of the
song is probably the loudest, as I hear that is really when setting mike
levels where you want to aim.  I hear you really want to sing the part of
the song where you feel you're going to spike the highest level.  But if the
song doesn't have much dynamics, then do I just shoot over all for -12, or
is there a little trick to this.  What my fear is, is that I'm gonna not
strain, but seeing the chorus does get ever so slightly high for me, I'm
gonna have to push a bit.  Also to get the emotion I need, I'll have to
push.  Again, I did, not! say strain, big difference!  It's perfectly within
my range.  Anyway, my fear is that even with a compressor going, which I
really don't wanna apply until the vocal track is actually totally done, I'm
going to hit some of the higher notes a little too hard, and therefore spike
to the point of clipping, and that's what I'm desperetly trying to avoid.

Is there a sure! fire way to make double dawg sure? I don't clip, or is it
gonna be best really in this situation to just really really use my ears and
pay very close attention.

Chris.

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