Ditto -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Scott Chesworth Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 2:32 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Possibly a very obvious, and maybe stupid question about setting lead vocal levels
Ah, you've caught up ;) The dock is one thing that still works well IMHO. Nowadays though if I'm not in PT, then I'm not in Mac OS at all. VO drives me barmy. On 3/26/15, Chris Norman <[email protected]> wrote: > Talking of tips... I know this isn't in any way Pro Tools related, but > as we're tipping anyways... I just found out you can hit VO-D to go to > the dock, then start typing the name of the application you want to > switch too, then hit enter... Much faster than either CMD+Tab, or Jumplists > under windows. > > HTH, > > Take care, > > Chris Norman > >> On 26 Mar 2015, at 20:13, Scott Chesworth <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> I think it's more valuable because it'll allow you to get away from >> the keyboard, and into a better position to do whatever it is you're >> gonna be doing once the actual recording starts. Just a bit less >> switching between frames of mind, if that's not too hippy. >> >> Scott >> >> On 3/26/15, Chris Norman <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Well, just means you can sing one note at a certain loudness for say >>> 10 seconds, and you can reliably determine what level it's at. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> >>> Take care, >>> >>> Chris Norman >>> >>>> On 26 Mar 2015, at 19:59, Scott Chesworth >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Nope. Hitting something harder basically means sending a louder >>>> signal into it. In PT, a little boost of clip gain is usually the >>>> best way to do that if it's required. >>>> >>>> Chris's hotspot tip is golden btw. Need to remember that one myself >>>> next time I'm tracking in PT. >>>> >>>> Hth >>>> >>>> Scott >>>> >>>> >>>> On 3/26/15, Christopher-Mark Gilland <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> When we say hitting a compressor harder, I've never quite >>>>> understood what that exactly means. Are we saying that we're >>>>> basically raising the speed of >>>>> >>>>> the attack, therefore making it kick in sooner? >>>>> >>>>> Chris. >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Scott Chesworth" <[email protected]> >>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:33 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: Possibly a very obvious, and maybe stupid question >>>>> about setting lead vocal levels >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> When I'm recording myself (not something I'm a fan of), I just >>>>>> play it uber safe with the meters and concentrate on the actual >>>>>> performance. >>>>>> It's too easy to get distracted. I'd say set levels using the >>>>>> chorus and the climax you mentioned, maybe take a slightly longer >>>>>> run at that part to make sure you're ramping up as much as you're >>>>>> likely to during an actual take. If your peaks are where you want >>>>>> them to be during those sections, the verses and other quieter >>>>>> parts will be gravy as we say here. If you're still nervous, back >>>>>> off the gain a smidgen for safety. Assuming you've got a >>>>>> relatively clean signal path, a couple DB less on the way in >>>>>> isn't gonna do anything that can't be compensated for with a >>>>>> touch of clip gain later on in the process should you discover >>>>>> that you need to hit a compressor a little harder. >>>>>> >>>>>> Good luck >>>>>> >>>>>> Scott >>>>>> >>>>>> On 3/26/15, Christopher-Mark Gilland <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> This might seem to most of you like a very very obvious >>>>>>> question, and yeah, I know ultimately at the end of the day, >>>>>>> probably what it's gonna boil down to is, "Just listen and use >>>>>>> your ears," but I have a song I'm going to be recording. It >>>>>>> really doesn't have much dynamic volume changes in the lead >>>>>>> vocal. Don't get me wrong, there is! a climax to the song, but >>>>>>> pretty much, for what it's worth, the song stays fairly close to >>>>>>> the same level throughout. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If it helps, so you all can listen to it on Youtube or >>>>>>> something, the song is called Mercy Said No, and it's by Greg >>>>>>> Long. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Anyway, I don't want to clip during my recording, and obviously >>>>>>> I want enough wiggleroom before applying any compression, or the >>>>>>> like to that vocal track. I want to come in probably notch peek >>>>>>> around -12DB, no more than -10 pushing it. That said, seeing >>>>>>> this song really doesn't seem to change much in dynamics, again, >>>>>>> it does, but not very much... what is therefore probably the >>>>>>> best way of doing a sound check? I know how to look at my >>>>>>> meters, and yes, I do have them set to infinity, so that they >>>>>>> hold at the peek until >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> reset them, but what I'm saying more is, how do I determine what >>>>>>> part of >>>>>>> >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> song is probably the loudest, as I hear that is really when >>>>>>> setting mike levels where you want to aim. I hear you really >>>>>>> want to sing the part of the song where you feel you're going to >>>>>>> spike the highest level. >>>>>>> But >>>>>>> if >>>>>>> >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> song doesn't have much dynamics, then do I just shoot over all >>>>>>> for -12, or is there a little trick to this. What my fear is, >>>>>>> is that I'm gonna not strain, but seeing the chorus does get >>>>>>> ever so slightly high for me, I'm gonna have to push a bit. >>>>>>> Also to get the emotion I need, I'll have to push. Again, I >>>>>>> did, not! say strain, big difference! It's perfectly within my >>>>>>> range. Anyway, my fear is that even with a compressor going, >>>>>>> which I really don't wanna apply until the vocal track is >>>>>>> actually totally done, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm >>>>>>> going to hit some of the higher notes a little too hard, and >>>>>>> therefore spike to the point of clipping, and that's what I'm >>>>>>> desperetly trying to avoid. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is there a sure! fire way to make double dawg sure? I don't >>>>>>> clip, or is it gonna be best really in this situation to just >>>>>>> really really use my ears >>>>>>> >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> pay very close attention. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chris. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>> Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>> Google Groups >>>>>> >>>>>> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an >>>>>> >>>>>> email to [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>> send an email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >> send an email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. 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