Extremely well put, I am coming from the perspective of using an analog oriented workflow on the tracking side, I supose my underlying point is we should carefully examine our actual needs and what we can and can't live without.
The UA stuff is great and tracking through unison would be wesome to have access to, but they are great products without touching that I'd imagine. Presumably you could save a preset work space to always track through a neve front end or something, which would extract some of the extra value/fun of unison. Audient interfaces are another fine USB option but again no accessibility on their mixer software, so to me RME is the most accessible I've found once you have a control surface and some patience. This is an important discussion to have I think because blind and visually impaired users are almost more restricted with interface options in the medium term than with software. As someone running a studio as a business myself I tend to feel I am best served by letting as little of the work as possible to the software/interface systems, but that isn't the entirely the way to go because of modern workflows and creativity. Sorry for the meandering message! I better get mixing! Brian. Sent from my smart-ish phone! > On 14/11/2017, at 8:57 AM, TheOreoMonster <monkeypushe...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Fair points, however Except in the cases of the high end interfaces > (Antelope & RME) USB latency isn’t as low as TB. Granted anything under 10ms > may not be noticeable but USB still has the CPU hit that FW & TB doesn’t. > Also FW ports are disappearing so you will need a dongle or a doc to use them > in the future. Also if you notice on the Antelope devices the USB limits the > number of I/O which isn’t limited when the same devices are used over > Thunderbolt. So yes I agree a lot of it is marketing hype, but my real world > experiences of having used all 3 (I too had an A&H FW mixer for years) and > especially having used TB and USB in the last year especially, When it comes > to running big sessions and tracking through plug ins, USB still feels > sluggish in comparison to TB devices.I say all that to say , the AudioFUse is > USB 3, and claims to get 3ms of latency which is only about 1.5ms more than > TB devices, and has everything you will need available on the physical > hardware unit so you will probably never need to launch its control panel. > So yeah, exceptions to the rule and all. > >> On Nov 14, 2017, at 3:27 AM, Brian Casey <br...@wavefieldrecordings.com> >> wrote: >> >> Hi Nate, >> >> As a quick note, firewire and usb aren't as restrictive as thunderbolt >> marketing hype might suggest, for example the Allem and Heath interface card >> in my console does 32 in and 32 out over firewire 400 with no problem, RME >> and antilope also get huge results with usb based interfaces. >> >> I had an RME fireface UFX in the past, while its own mixer and routing >> software wasn't accessible with a screenreader I was able to create monitor >> mixes, route audio and use many of its monitor control type functionality as >> it could be controled with a control surface using HUI protocol. At the time >> I controled it with a BCF 2000 and it was actually a great system and I was >> omly missing out on access to a small portion of its functions. >> >> Unfortunately the trend in interfaces is towards proprietary on board >> features that are as inaccessible as they ar awesome. >> >> Sent from my smart-ish phone! >> >>> On 14/11/2017, at 3:16 AM, Nathaniel Kile <heavens4r...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> I am still going back and forth between the Apogee and the Apollo but >>> neither seem to be completely accessible. I am looking at the new Apollo's >>> with the quad shark processors, but the unison technology does not seem to >>> be accessible and I don't want to buy something and only be able to use >>> half of its features. What are you using? I am in the $1500 to $2000 range. >>> Any suggestions? I have a couple clean pres, and thought about simply >>> picking up a Black Lion Audio AD converter, but then I would still have to >>> push audio through my 003 and it is only fire wire and I want a stronger >>> data transfer than fire wire can offer. >>> >>> Nate Kile, >>> Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision >>> Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual >>> instruction for schools >>> Also Private training to your needs >>> 907-444-3707 >>> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office >>> products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes: >>> www.yourtechvision.com >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On >>> Behalf Of TheOreoMonster >>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 6:06 PM >>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling >>> >>> If you do not have an iOS device to control the device accessibly, then >>> perhaps consider an interface that has some hardware buttons on it so you >>> won’t really need to use its control software. For example if you need to >>> enable phantom power or switch an input from line level to hi-z consider an >>> interface that has physical buttons for these features. If you don’t have a >>> Condensor mic that requires phantom power or plan to record an instrument >>> like guitar or Bass directly and also don’t plan to do any complicated >>> routing of audio you probably won’t need to ever worry about going into the >>> Apogee software and just install the drivers and start using it. Usually >>> with most interfaces I have encountered once the drivers are installed, you >>> can select it as the audio interface in your DAW and start using it. >>> >>>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 9:16 PM, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Ok, I'm new to Mac and have even less knowledge of Keyboard Maestro. >>>> >>>> Do you know of an audio interface similar to the APOGEE thunderbolt >>>> Element 46 that might be more accessible friendly? >>>> >>>> Or should I bite the bullet and learn Keyboard Maestro? >>>> >>>> I am open to suggestion. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> Andre J. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On >>>> Behalf Of Slau Halatyn >>>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 5:58 PM >>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling >>>> >>>> Nah, you can't control it from within Pro Tools. It's a stand-alone >>>> application. It might be possible to create macros to control it a bit >>>> with Keyboard Maestro but it won't have anything to do with Flo Tools. >>>> >>>>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 5:44 PM, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Yes, Apogee support does not know how FlowTools works. >>>>> >>>>> My thought is if the APOGEE plugs into PT then regardless of of pass >>>>> through, USB or Thunderbolt, FlowTools stands a chance of controlling it >>>>> through PT. >>>>> >>>>> If anybody out there knows for sure one way or the other please let me >>>>> know. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> Andre >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On >>>>> Behalf Of Steve Martin >>>>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 12:19 PM >>>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling >>>>> >>>>> Have you contacted Apogee Support? >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 9:03 AM, Alex Coleman <musicbyalexcole...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Andre, >>>>>> Regarding the Apogee Element 46, I have recently purchased that >>>>>> exact interface and am having issues setting it up using voiceover. >>>>>> There is an IOS app that you can download that looks accessible and >>>>>> allows you to set up your interface from an iPhone or iPad, etc. >>>>>> However, I am having issues getting my iPhone to connect to my >>>>>> Element 46, even though the iPhone app can see my Element connected >>>>>> to my Makbook Pro. >>>>>> That being said, someone else (can't remember exactly who) on this >>>>>> list is using the IOS app successfully, so I'm assuming that my >>>>>> problems are specific to my particular system. >>>>>> If I come up with a solution, I'll try to post an update. >>>>>> >>>>>> Concerning your question about decoupling your monitors from their >>>>>> stands, generally speaking, any type of additional isolation that >>>>>> can be implemented to help eliminate any unwanted >>>>>> vibrations/reflections/etc. would be advisable. It all just depends >>>>>> on your specific mixing environment. >>>>>> >>>>>> HTH >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 11/10/17, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> wrote: >>>>>>> Hi List, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am trying to find out if an APOGEE thunderbolt Element 46 is >>>>>>> accessible using FlowTools-PT on a Mac Book Pro. Or is some kind >>>>>>> of accessibility plugin needed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also trying to find out if monitor de-coupling stands are a good >>>>>>> idea to have for mixing down a project. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks A to Z in advance. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Andre J. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>>>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. 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