I'm pretty much in the same boat.  A quality mid-range price interface is 
desired.

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Nathaniel Kile
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 12:42 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling

Ok, I hear you. What did you think of the Claret 8PreX
? I am not searching for the holy grail, but I do want a quality mid-range 
priced interface and am open to everyone's thoughts.


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From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
TheOreoMonster
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 9:22 PM
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Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling

I would have to go digging and figure out which of the projects were done on 
that. I probably did a lot more mixing at that time than recording. The reasons 
I got rid of it is I realize I didn’t care for the “analog hype”, as in I 
wasn’t using a lot of the UAD 1176/LA2a//etc but I did end up using a lot of 
the plug in alliance stuff like the Maag and SPL stuff. Native Plug In Alliance 
stuff went on sale more frequently and at better prices than the UAD versions. 
Also I could use a lot more without running out of processing power. So not 
being able to use Unison and not using a lot of the UAD exclusive plugins I 
decided to get rid of it. I do still have some plug ins in my account that I 
intended to get a satellite card to use at some point but I still haven’t 
gotten around to that yet. 
I eventually ended up with the Clarett 8PreX but no longer have it as I moved 
and had to downsize. 
      
> On Nov 15, 2017, at 12:46 AM, Nathaniel Kile <heavens4r...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Do you have any projects that you recorded with it that I could somehow 
> listen to? What was the main reason that you no longer have it?
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> Nate Kile,
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> for schools Also Private training to your needs
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> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of TheOreoMonster
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 8:18 PM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
> 
> IF you end up going UAD get the Quad if you can afford it. I had the Duo from 
> the first gen and could run out of processing power in larger projects if I 
> wanted to use a few instances across numerous tracks. 
> 
>> On Nov 15, 2017, at 12:13 AM, Nathaniel Kile <heavens4r...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I am still more or less left with the same question, Ha, hHa! Well, at this 
>> point I am drifting over to the UA camp, simply because of the dedicated 
>> buttons, but I have heard some sweet stuff from the Apogee Element line. I 
>> will let you guys know if I pull the trigger on anything.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Nate Kile,
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>> Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual instruction 
>> for schools Also Private training to your needs
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>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of TheOreoMonster
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 7:58 PM
>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
>> 
>> More specifically I am suggesting those making music or teaching videos 
>> won’t necessarily need the additional expense of Pro Tools HD and its 
>> additional specific  interfaces. A modern computer with any 3rd party 
>> thunderbolt interface will perform on par for a lot less money.
>> 
>>> On Nov 14, 2017, at 9:48 PM, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Are you suggesting there is a better interface for those making music and 
>>> teaching videos?  
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] 
>>> On Behalf Of TheOreoMonster
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 3:49 PM
>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
>>> 
>>> Allow me to clarify what I meant by not worth the money. Didn’t mean they 
>>> weren’t great sounding interfaces. More What I meant was they weren’t worth 
>>> the money as in cost. They are more expensive (and also requires you to 
>>> upgrade to a ProTools HD license)  and so I don’t consider them a value 
>>> compared to the current ben 3rd party interfaces that are in the same 
>>> ballpark Latency wise and work fine with non HD Pro Tools. Unless you are 
>>> managing large film projects or something like that, a modern computer and 
>>> modern Thunderbolt interface are more than plenty sufficient for even big 
>>> projects now, especially for music only projects. And I believe, given that 
>>> this is a mailing list for blind users thats what most of us are dealing 
>>> with. 
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 14, 2017, at 7:35 AM, CHUCK REICHEL 
>>>> <soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Steve,
>>>> 
>>>> Have you used a HD I/O 16x16 from Avid?
>>>> I can't even begin to count how many songs you might listen to were done 
>>>> with it?
>>>> I use it every day and would be glad to send you off list some 
>>>> music produced by it! :) Chuck "God does not play dice with the universe"
>>>> "Albert Einstein’
>>>> 
>>>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 10:11 PM, TheOreoMonster wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Also the only DAW you can control an Apogee interface from within 
>>>>> is Logic. The only interfaces you can control from within ProTools 
>>>>> is one of the Avid interfaces, and they haven’t updated any of 
>>>>> those in a few years so none are really worth the money right now.
>>>>> As Slau said, interfaces are generally controlled from their stand 
>>>>> alone apps and not from with in a DAW except in rare cases like 
>>>>> pointed out above. So yes you can still use Apogee interfaces in 
>>>>> Pro Tools you just won’t be able to control them from within Pro 
>>>>> Tools
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 9:16 PM, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ok, I'm new to Mac and have even less knowledge of Keyboard Maestro.  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Do you know of an audio interface similar to the APOGEE thunderbolt 
>>>>>> Element 46 that might be more accessible friendly?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Or should I bite the bullet and learn Keyboard Maestro?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am open to suggestion.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Andre J.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>> [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com]
>>>>>> On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 5:58 PM
>>>>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Nah, you can't control it from within Pro Tools. It's a stand-alone 
>>>>>> application. It might be possible to create macros to control it a bit 
>>>>>> with Keyboard Maestro but it won't have anything to do with Flo Tools.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 5:44 PM, Andre Jarreau 
>>>>>>> <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yes, Apogee support does not know how FlowTools works.  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> My thought is if the APOGEE plugs into PT then regardless of of pass 
>>>>>>> through, USB or Thunderbolt, FlowTools stands a chance of controlling 
>>>>>>> it through PT.  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If anybody out there knows for sure one way or the other please let me 
>>>>>>> know.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> Andre
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>>> [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com]
>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Steve Martin
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 12:19 PM
>>>>>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Have you contacted Apogee Support?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 9:03 AM, Alex Coleman 
>>>>>>>> <musicbyalexcole...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Andre,
>>>>>>>> Regarding the Apogee Element 46, I have recently purchased that 
>>>>>>>> exact interface and am having issues setting it up using voiceover.
>>>>>>>> There is an IOS app that you can download that looks accessible 
>>>>>>>> and allows you to set up your interface from an iPhone or iPad, etc.
>>>>>>>> However, I am having issues getting my iPhone to connect to my 
>>>>>>>> Element 46, even though the iPhone app can see my Element 
>>>>>>>> connected to my Makbook Pro.
>>>>>>>> That being said, someone else (can't remember exactly who) on 
>>>>>>>> this list is using the IOS app successfully, so I'm assuming 
>>>>>>>> that my problems are specific to my particular system.
>>>>>>>> If I come up with a solution, I'll try to post an update.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Concerning your question about decoupling your monitors from 
>>>>>>>> their stands, generally speaking, any type of additional 
>>>>>>>> isolation that can be implemented to help eliminate any 
>>>>>>>> unwanted vibrations/reflections/etc. would be advisable. It all 
>>>>>>>> just depends on your specific mixing environment.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 11/10/17, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi List,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I am trying to find out if an APOGEE thunderbolt Element 46 is 
>>>>>>>>> accessible using FlowTools-PT on a Mac Book Pro.  Or is some 
>>>>>>>>> kind of accessibility plugin needed.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Also trying to find out if monitor de-coupling stands are a 
>>>>>>>>> good idea to have for mixing down a project.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks A to Z in advance.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Andre J.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
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