On 4/12/11 10:08 AM, glenn mcdonald wrote:
But who ever told you, or inferred to you, that any LOD demo is
about the "Complete Linked Data Experience" let alone the
"Complete Data Experience".
I didn't capitalize those. A human's experience of data is the product
of the underlying data and the tool/experience/interface through which
they see it.
Via their own inherently subjective "context lenses".
Excel the pathetic dominates the world of spreadsheets. Nuff said.
And yet, you don't seem to have dissolved your company, therefore you
don't actually think Excel is the end of all conversations.
Don't get your point.
We build data access, integration, and management technology. All
spreadsheets are interesting to use as consumers and presenters of data.
That's it.
On your part, you claim Excel is pathetic. My question to you is: what's
your alternative? How come it hasn't exploited the massive opportunity
at hand? Bottom, your subjective comments about Excel or any other
product are unwarranted.
Look, can't we just have a civil debate? Disagreements and debates are
healthy in any realm.
Did write an alternative? Why isn't the world using your
alternative if such a thing exists. Bearing in mind the huge
market share of Excel why are you overlooking the massive
opportunity to cleanup via your superior product?
I wasn't making any claims about my project in this thread. But Needle
and Google Refine are two examples of attempts to do data-management
tools with more of a focus on cleanup and curation.
Google Refine != Excel. That isn't why Excel exists. This is one of
those context infidelity examples again. My reference to "Excel" was
about separating an application that can consume data from the
technology that delivers data to it, and the actual originating sources
of said data. Your response was to denigrate Excel, rather that attempt
to grasp my point.
What is a Data Tool? Again, 100% subjective.
I don't think I know what you mean by the word "subjective".
Clearly not. And maybe therein lines the problem. Subjective implies
"your world view". Example: you see Google Refine vs Excel as an "Apples
vs Apples" comparison re. Data Reconciliation matters.
E.g., Danny Ayers yesterday was trying to make a SPARQL query for
Wordnet that found the planets in the solar system that aren't
named after Roman gods. But neither he nor I could find any way
in the data to distinguish actual planets in the list of solar
bodies, so we couldn't quite make it right.
And did you post a callout here or on Twitter or anyone else for
other folks to chime in?
Yes, Danny asked the question on Twitter and on his blog. I saw it and
answered it. Nobody else "chimed in".
Twitter link? I know Rob Vesse has already chimed in with a suggestion,
but the call-out link is still interesting :-)
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OpenLink Software
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