On 4/22/11 12:18 PM, Martin Hepp wrote:
Hi Nathan, Kingsley:
My point is that I want anybody using any ontology / annotation tool to 
immediately spot the cardinality recommendation. rdfs:label is displayed by all 
/ most tools.

Yes, but time to stop accepting in appropriate patterns :-)

rdfs:comment exists for a reason. Linked Data is better that OS and programming lang. locked code, thus we have a massive opportunity to also finally make "comments" useful etc..

  if I hide it in rdfs:comment, it is not as accessible. Defining an 
owl:AnnotationProperty will be completely invisible in most tools.

Okay, so make gr:label, then place in an owl:equivalentProperty relation with rdfs:label. Then via its rdfs:comment value expose a distilled version of this conversation :-)


I actually think that six extra characters (n..m) for the property labels should not 
really irritate a human-reader when faced with a "raw data view". Again, any 
data that includes e.g. intermediate nodes for higher arity relationships will look 
pretty much machine-code style without context-dependent rendering/consolidation.

As for the classes, I think we are all in agreement now, e.g.

     URI http://purl.org/goodrelations/v1#DeliveryChargeSpecification
     rdfs:label Delivery charge specification

For the pre-defined individuals, I think that the class name as additional 
context does more good than harm:

     URI http://purl.org/goodrelations/v1#MasterCard
     rdfs:label MasterCard (payment method)

So our only disagreement seems to be about having the cardinality info in the 
label, and I think that, at least for the moment, that is the better choice as 
compared to the alternatives.

If you add gr:label to GoodRelations we're set :-)
It is also easy to create graph of cleansed rdfs:labels for goodrelations based 
on a simple regex.

Not good. We want to keep the logic in the data, via triples. Thus, traditional coding and string manipulation heuristics (regex and friends) -- .

Kingsley
Martin




On Apr 22, 2011, at 5:16 PM, Nathan wrote:

Kingsley Idehen wrote:
On 4/22/11 7:36 AM, Martin Hepp wrote:
See replies inline ;-)
Sorry to say this, but I think you are making a mistake. To say that the 
rdfs:label has to look like a variable name because it is for Web developers 
sounds to me like you are saying that the javadoc of a method should look like 
a piece of code because it is addressed to programmers. I refuse to believe 
that Web developers understand better pseudo code than natural language.
I will finally give in to use English spacing and capitalization for 
rdfs:labels in GoodRelations, e.g. use

    "Business entity"@en for gr:BusinessEntity etc.

But I will keep the cardinality recommendation in the rdfs:label of properties, 
e.g.

     serial number (0..*) for gr:serialNumber
Why not move that to rdfs:comment?
+1 seems more like a comment or a description from where I'm standing too, 
rather than a label.




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