On 5/18/12 2:21 PM, Joshi, Amit Krishna wrote:
I found this old article about kngine in VentureBeat 
(http://venturebeat.com/2010/08/09/kngine-semantic-search/). Does anyone know 
how far they have been successful in bringing similar Knowledge Graph to the 
masses?

After few random 'entity' queries I did on both, I found it worth spreading the 
comparison:

1) http://www.kngine.com/search?q=google   vs 
http://www.google.com/search?q=google
2 ) http://www.kngine.com/Search?q=boston  vs 
https://www.google.com/search?q=boston

It's interesting to see companies realizing the value of 
Knowledge/entity/things/fact/semantic graph/data.

Fails the 'Paris Hilton' disambiguation test. See: http://www.kngine.com/Search?q=Paris+Hilton&o=0

It should be something like:

1. http://goo.gl/xi6HV -- let user disambiguate by entity type
2. http://goo.gl/Y0JG8 -- or by entity attributes
3. http://goo.gl/kPBPV -- or feel lucky where the system subjective ranks entities by by link coefficients and text scores.

Making decisions for the user is part of the problem. The key is to empower the user rather than think for them. Of course, when the user opts not to think, you can make an educated guess as per my comments about ranking.

Kingsley

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Amit

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From: David Wood [[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 1:45 PM
To: Eric Franzon
Cc: Ivan Herman; Aidan Hogan; Kingsley Idehen; [email protected]; 
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Subject: Re: Google Knowledge Graph Experiment

...or feed an interesting conspiracy theory :)

Regards,
Dave




On May 18, 2012, at 13:41, Eric Franzon wrote:

Although, really, if TimBL doesn't yet see anything as he just reported, that may shoot 
the "influence" hypothesis right out of the water. ;)

Cheers,
--Eric

On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Eric 
Franzon<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>  wrote:
I also am still not getting to view GKG enrichments either. It truly seems to 
be a gradual roll-out (as Google confirmed to us yesterday: 
http://semanticweb.com/google-knowledge-graph-interview_b29172). I have tried 
all three of my Google accounts, all of which have completed profiles, but to 
no avail.

What the representative we interviewed indicated is that they are rolling out slowly to account 
holders "over the next few days." THEN, they will begin with general 
Google.com<http://Google.com>  visitors. And then I suspect they will (again gradually) 
start rolling it out across other global Googles.

I was interested in Kingsley's experiment because it was based on the theory that some measure 
of "social influence" might be at play in the algorithm. While my ego might certainly 
wish to believe that I (and semanticweb.com<http://semanticweb.com/>) have such 
influence, I acknowledge that Danny Sullivan, Kara Swisher, et al probably have more in the 
broader tech world. ;-)

Of course, if Google would mention "Semantic Web" in their marketing material or acknowledge 
any of the other work that has come before, that would no doubt help with the "influence" of 
all of us on these lists. But I digress... for more on that perspective, you may wish to see Sean 
Golliher's editorial which will be published at SemanticWeb.com<http://SemanticWeb.com>  at the top 
of the next hour (2:00pm ET in the US).

Cheers,
--Eric




On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Ivan Herman<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>  
wrote:
Well... I tried this trick, but does not change a thing. Yes, the search happens on 
www.google.com<http://www.google.com/>, but I presume it knows that I am, hm, 
considered as Dutch and sticks to its guns: I see nothing of the GKG on my screen.

Ivan

On May 18, 2012, at 17:57 , Aidan Hogan wrote:

All,

On 18/05/2012 05:51, Eric Franzon wrote:
Actually, some modest testing has shown something other than geography at play 
here. Earlier today, colleagues in London and California were able to see GKG 
rich data visualizations, while others in the US (myself included -- also in 
California) and Europe could not.

I spoke to a Google representative this afternoon who confirmed the gradual 
roll-out, but would not (or could not) discuss the algorithm. He did hint that 
people with Google accounts will be first to see the enhancements.
In my experience, the most reliable way to see GKG in action is:

Visit http://google.com/ncr
(the "/ncr" suffix stops you redirecting to a local version)

Be logged in with a Google account.

Try a typical entity search (e.g., "Galway").

Cheers,
Aidan

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