On 5/18/12 1:39 PM, Eric Franzon wrote:
I also am still not getting to view GKG enrichments either. It truly seems to be a gradual roll-out (as Google confirmed to us yesterday: http://semanticweb.com/google-knowledge-graph-interview_b29172). I have tried all three of my Google accounts, all of which have completed profiles, but to no avail.
Remember, my *theory* is that this is an early example of a profile-driven-service roll-out. Nothing wrong with that, but Google made some disconcerting mistakes. Here's my sequence of events:
1. I open up the doc at: http://www.google.com/insidesearch/features/search/knowledge.html, following the service announcement
2. clicked on the "Give it a try" link 3. saw nothing4. 24 hours later (yesterday EST) I stumbled across Paul's post (as per Twitter thread that ensued)
5. kicked off experiment to test my theory.At step 1 above, nothing from Google indicated to me that if don't see anything it was due to staggered roll-out. In short, the disclaimer still doesn't exist on that page.
However you look at it, this is an algorithm gone wrong, and it does have implications.
What the representative we interviewed indicated is that they are rolling out slowly to account holders "over the next few days." THEN, they will begin with general Google.com visitors. And then I suspect they will (again gradually) start rolling it out across other global Googles.
All vague commentary, the kind that is kinda scary and a little creepy. Again, I doubt it was intentional, but there are some realities bubbling up to the surface re. profiles and the Web etc..
I was interested in Kingsley's experiment because it was based on the theory that some measure of "social influence" might be at play in the algorithm. While my ego might certainly wish to believe that I (and semanticweb.com <http://semanticweb.com>) have such influence, I acknowledge that Danny Sullivan, Kara Swisher, et al probably have more in the broader tech world. ;-)
It isn't so simple. There are many other factors in play. There was a degree of profiling involved (nothing wrong with that per se.) that wasn't handled properly (IMHO).
Of course, if Google would mention "Semantic Web" in their marketing material or acknowledge any of the other work that has come before, that would no doubt help with the "influence" of all of us on these lists. But I digress... for more on /that/ perspective, you may wish to see Sean Golliher's editorial which will be published at SemanticWeb.com at the top of the next hour (2:00pm ET in the US).
Will take a look, its 2.55pm EST right now :-) Kingsley
Cheers, --EricOn Fri, May 18, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Ivan Herman <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:Well... I tried this trick, but does not change a thing. Yes, the search happens on www.google.com <http://www.google.com>, but I presume it knows that I am, hm, considered as Dutch and sticks to its guns: I see nothing of the GKG on my screen. Ivan On May 18, 2012, at 17:57 , Aidan Hogan wrote: > All, > > On 18/05/2012 05:51, Eric Franzon wrote: >> Actually, some modest testing has shown something other than geography at play here. Earlier today, colleagues in London and California were able to see GKG rich data visualizations, while others in the US (myself included -- also in California) and Europe could not. >> >> I spoke to a Google representative this afternoon who confirmed the gradual roll-out, but would not (or could not) discuss the algorithm. He did hint that people with Google accounts will be first to see the enhancements. > > In my experience, the most reliable way to see GKG in action is: > > Visit http://google.com/ncr > (the "/ncr" suffix stops you redirecting to a local version) > > Be logged in with a Google account. > > Try a typical entity search (e.g., "Galway"). > > Cheers, > Aidan ---- Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ mobile: +31-641044153 <tel:%2B31-641044153> FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf.rdf -- *Eric Axel Franzon* Vice President of Community SemanticWeb.com 6080 Center Dr., 6th Floor Los Angeles, CA 90045 [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> O: +1.323.856.1474 C: +1.323.309.1601 LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/ericfranzon Twitter: http://twitter.com/SemanticWeb
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