On 5/18/12 3:05 PM, Jürgen Jakobitsch wrote:
did you mean "sphinx to rings"?

LOL!

"Strings to Things that are Nameless"


Kingsley


wkr j

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kingsley Idehen"<[email protected]>
To: "Eric Franzon"<[email protected]>
Cc: "Ivan Herman"<[email protected]>, "Aidan Hogan"<[email protected]>, 
[email protected], [email protected], [email protected]
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 8:59:45 PM
Subject: Re: Google Knowledge Graph Experiment

On 5/18/12 1:41 PM, Eric Franzon wrote:


Although, really, if TimBL doesn't yet see anything as he just reported, that may shoot 
the "influence" hypothesis right out of the water. ;)

Quite the contrary, you over simplify :-) That's a little more inline with my 
theory i.e., release the service via nodes that will celebrate rather that 
scrutinize etc..

"Stings to Things that are Nameless" != Linked Data and the Semantic Web. Thus, 
what's TimBL got to celebrate about such an effort? If I was in Google's shoes, he would 
be the last person I would want scrutinizing Google Knowledge Graph, seriously!

Kingsley






Cheers,
--Eric


On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Eric Franzon<  [email protected]>  wrote:



I also am still not getting to view GKG enrichments either. It truly seems to 
be a gradual roll-out (as Google confirmed to us yesterday: 
http://semanticweb.com/google-knowledge-graph-interview_b29172 ). I have tried 
all three of my Google accounts, all of which have completed profiles, but to 
no avail.

What the representative we interviewed indicated is that they are rolling out slowly to 
account holders "over the next few days." THEN, they will begin with general 
Google.com visitors. And then I suspect they will (again gradually) start rolling it out 
across other global Googles.

I was interested in Kingsley's experiment because it was based on the theory that some 
measure of "social influence" might be at play in the algorithm. While my ego 
might certainly wish to believe that I (and semanticweb.com ) have such influence, I 
acknowledge that Danny Sullivan, Kara Swisher, et al probably have more in the broader 
tech world. ;-)

Of course, if Google would mention "Semantic Web" in their marketing material or 
acknowledge any of the other work that has come before, that would no doubt help with the 
"influence" of all of us on these lists. But I digress... for more on that perspective, 
you may wish to see Sean Golliher's editorial which will be published at SemanticWeb.com at the top 
of the next hour (2:00pm ET in the US).

Cheers,
--Eric






On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Ivan Herman<  [email protected]>  wrote:


Well... I tried this trick, but does not change a thing. Yes, the search 
happens on www.google.com , but I presume it knows that I am, hm, considered as 
Dutch and sticks to its guns: I see nothing of the GKG on my screen.

Ivan



On May 18, 2012, at 17:57 , Aidan Hogan wrote:

All,

On 18/05/2012 05:51, Eric Franzon wrote:
Actually, some modest testing has shown something other than geography at play 
here. Earlier today, colleagues in London and California were able to see GKG 
rich data visualizations, while others in the US (myself included -- also in 
California) and Europe could not.

I spoke to a Google representative this afternoon who confirmed the gradual 
roll-out, but would not (or could not) discuss the algorithm. He did hint that 
people with Google accounts will be first to see the enhancements.
In my experience, the most reliable way to see GKG in action is:

Visit http://google.com/ncr
(the "/ncr" suffix stops you redirecting to a local version)

Be logged in with a Google account.

Try a typical entity search (e.g., "Galway").

Cheers,
Aidan



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