On Feb 3, 2015 8:49 AM, "Siva Narendra" <s...@tyfone.com> wrote: > > Is payments also an overkill? >
Failing to consider privacy as a valid concern or declaring users privacy irrelevant (as it seems Rigo is doing) will always cause your use case to be called overkill. Put differently, there is no use case that is valuable enough that should cause us to be willing to suspend the priority of constituencies and ignore the very real privacy and security risks users face. And before anyone slips into some trite argument that "Not implementing X is not putting users first" - no, privacy and security is the one universal that trumps all. So it is disingenuous and counterproductive to frame the discussion as "X not being a valid use case" or "Y being overkill". The argument remains unchanged for the past three years - any solution that does not preserve users privacy and security is unacceptable, full stop. If you provide and explore a solution that preserves these two aspects - and this thread has many such concrete examples of ways in which the proposals to date have failed miserably at doing so - then it may be worth discussing. But *no* use case is worth trumping these concerns, and it is not the *use case* being rejected, but the "solutions" being put forth.