On Sep 9, 2014, at 6:31 AM, Johannes Wilm <johan...@fiduswriter.org> wrote:
> Absolutely. if this division means we can get into a saner place faster (and > with a higher likelihood that it will actually happen) then I am all for it. > > Of course the long-term future of the web should be taken into consideration > as well, and as I understand it, this could be part of the second part then. > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Piotr Koszuliński > <p.koszulin...@cksource.com> wrote: > I'm not sure if I remember correctly, but I believe that after long > discussions we left the question "what should contenteditable=minimal be?" > unanswered. First the intention events lists should be created, so we can see > what needs to be handled. And this is what Ben Peters is working on. > > Still we may also take in consideration that there are limited resources > available for working on the specs. Therefore the whole work could be > separated into two *independent* topics: > 1. Intention events + execCommand. > 2. contenteditable=“minimal” > > That's what I was proposing as well - to have the base (which consists mainly > of fixed selection API and intention events) ready as soon as possible, so > hopefully browser makers can start implementing it and then we, editor > makers, can start using it. This part will already improve the current > situation a lot, but it's itself pretty hard as we can see. Then, if anyone > will be still interested, a specification for default browser's actions can > be created. It's a huge task and there are a lot of controversial topics like > the famous delete/backspace behaviour when merging blocks and that's why I > would not recommend starting these discussions right now. Could you clarify what use cases could be addressed by implementing 1? Since I consider the lack of concrete use cases to be one of the reasons the last few iterations/attempts to implement something like these have failed, I would really like to have a list of concrete use cases that are to be addressed by each specification listed above. - R. Niwa
