Can you explain why you oppose including Sec. 2 of Ballot 190 as a Note at the 
end of BR 3.2.2.4 as updated?  This is commonly done for rule sets around the 
world, and is the simplest and easiest way to proceed.

I thought your concern was making sure that someone who looked at the updated 
BRs would see what transition rules had been adopted, and would not have to go 
back to Ballot 190 to find out.  A Notice at the end of BR 3.2.2.4 would 
accomplish that.

It would be very helpful to the Forum if you would consider alternatives to the 
exact outcome you want, and evaluate other options that will meet your concerns 
and also the concerns and opinions of other members.  Right now, it’s hard to 
understand why you are not showing any flexibility.

From: Ryan Sleevi [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 2:59 PM
To: Kirk Hall <[email protected]>
Cc: CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List <[email protected]>
Subject: [EXTERNAL]Re: [cabfpub] Ballot 190: Domain Validation



On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 5:56 PM, Kirk Hall 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
While I still disagree with your personal interpretation – why can’t we do 
things the way other deliberative bodies do? – as I said before, I have no 
problem including “Notes” at the end of provisions that are not part of the 
BRs, but which inform readers of what the transition rules for a particular 
ballot are.  The notes can then be dropped once they are no longer relevant.

You're again inventing a new process that is inconsistent with how we've 
handled every other ballot, and introduces unnecessary ambiguity.

I would hope Jeremy would see how inadvisible this suggestion is. To save 
trouble - We would vote No against the process you've described. Would you vote 
No if we handled it like every other ballot?

So we can include Section 2 of Ballot 190 as a “Note” after BR 3.2.2.4, which 
is the section affected by the transition rule, then remove it once the 
transition period is over – everyone will see that in the compiled version of 
the updated BRs.  Sounds like a solution we can all live with.

Unfortunately, it seems you continue to misunderstand the concerns, and I'm not 
sure I can sufficiently explain them to you. Jeremy tends to understand these 
issues, so I'm sure he would have no problem addressing these concerns in a way 
that meaningfully work.
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