Offering a previously stated suggestion.

"Editorial changes" (the definitions 1 and 2 from W3C Process Document seem reasonable) must be proposed to the public list and clearly identified as such. If any voting member objects and considers such change as "not editorial", then the formal ballot process shall take place. if no objections are raised, then these editorial changes shall be applied along with changes approved via the next upcoming ballot.

Does this make sense?
Dimitris.


On 8/12/2017 9:14 μμ, Virginia Fournier via Public wrote:
Maybe we could state that “editorial” changes could be made without restarting the discussion period.  “Editorial” could be defined something like 1 and 2 below (taken from the W3C Process Document):


        6.2.5 Classes of Changes

This document distinguishes the following 4 classes of changes to a specification. The first two classes of change are considered editorial changes, the latter two substantive changes.

1. No changes to text content
    These changes include fixing broken links, style sheets or invalid
    markup.
2. Corrections that do not affect conformance
    Changes that reasonable implementers would not interpret as
    changing architectural or interoperability requirements or their
    implementation. Changes which resolve ambiguities in the
    specification are considered to change (by clarification) the
    implementation requirements and do not fall into this class.
    Examples of changes in this class include correcting non-normative
    code examples where the code clearly conflicts with normative
    requirements, clarifying informative use cases or other
    non-normative text, fixing typos or grammatical errors where the
    change does not change implementation requirements. If there is
    any doubt or dissent as to whether requirements are changed, such
    changes do not fall into this class.
3. Corrections that do not add new features
    These changes /may/ affect conformance to the specification. A
    change that affects conformance is one that:

      * makes conforming data, processors, or other conforming agents
        become non-conforming according to the new version, or
      * makes non-conforming data, processors, or other agents become
        conforming, or
      * clears up an ambiguity or under-specified part of the
        specification in such a way that data, a processor, or an
        agent whose conformance was once unclear becomes clearly
        either conforming or non-conforming.

4. New features
    Changes that add a new functionality, element, etc.

Best regards,

Virginia Fournier
Senior Standards Counsel
 Apple Inc.
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On Dec 8, 2017, at 10:29 AM, Kirk Hall <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Gerv, this started as your ballot, so it's up to you - do you want to allow such minor edits without restarting the discussion period, or not?

If yes, you need to put defining / permissive language in the ballot.  I won't be comfortable if we have no written permission for edits, but then allow them informally later when ballots have errors - it needs to be in the ballot.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gervase Markham [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, December 8, 2017 1:23 PM
To: Kirk Hall <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>; CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>; Ryan Sleevi <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: Virginia Fournier <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [cabfpub] [EXTERNAL]Re: Ballot XXX: Update Discussion Period

On 08/12/17 18:17, Kirk Hall via Public wrote:
Just putting the question to you in the abstract – do you think we
should have to restart a seven day discussion just to correct an
obvious typo?

Let us say the answer to that question is "no". Then the obvious next question is: "how do you, the proponent of this idea, define 'obvious typo' in a way which does not open the door to substantive changes, or changes which people would argue about the substantiveness of, and without inventing Yet Another Voting/Polling Mechanism"?

Gerv



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