Alkis,

You are perfectly right. I just changed that.
https://github.com/pubsubhubbub/PubSubHubbub/blob/master/pubsubhubbub-core-0.4.xml#L176

Thanks for your input!

julien

On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Alkis Evlogimenos <[email protected]>wrote:

> Hello Julien.
>
> In section 4 (discovery), I believe it is best to avoid explicit
> mentioning of Atom or RSS and instead mention them indirectly as XML
> formats. The way the section is currently worded, suggests that sitemaps
> (for example) can only be discovered through link headers, but this is
> problematic since link headers are not always an option for webmasters.
>
> Current text:
>
>> In the absence of HTTP Link headers, subscribers MAY fall back to other
>> methods to discover the hub(s) and the canonical URI of the topic. If the
>> topic is a Atom or RSS feed, it MAY use embedded link elements as described
>> in Appendix B of Web Linking [RFC5988]. Similarly, for HTML pages, it MAY
>> use embedded link elements as described in Appendix A of Web Linking
>> [RFC5988]. Finally, publishers MAY also use the Well-Known Uniform Resource
>> Identifiers [RFC5785] .host-meta to include the <Link> element.
>
>
> Proposal:
>
>> In the absence of HTTP Link headers, subscribers MAY fall back to other
>> methods to discover the hub(s) and the canonical URI of the topic. If the
>> topic is an XML based feed, it MAY use embedded link elements as
>> described in Appendix B of Web Linking [RFC5988]. Similarly, for HTML
>> pages, it MAY use embedded link elements as described in Appendix A of Web
>> Linking [RFC5988]. Finally, publishers MAY also use the Well-Known Uniform
>> Resource Identifiers [RFC5785] .host-meta to include the <Link> element.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> On Thursday, May 3, 2012 7:43:18 PM UTC+2, Julien wrote:
>>
>> Blaine,
>> Not sure what you mean, but I had previously updated the file there :
>> http://superfeedr-misc.s3.**amazonaws.com/pubsubhubbub-**core-0.4.html<http://superfeedr-misc.s3.amazonaws.com/pubsubhubbub-core-0.4.html>
>>
>> Feel free to send your changes here, and I'll make sure I reflect them
>> there :)
>>
>> Ju
>>
>> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Blaine Cook <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2 May 2012 14:01, Julien Genestoux <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> > All,
>>> > I just pushed an updated version of this draft.
>>> > It now includes the following (minor) points:
>>> > - Comments/Fixes by Walter Groix,
>>> > - Symetric "accepted" and "denied" when the hubs validates the
>>> subscription
>>> > - Use of From header (based on Blaine's feedback)
>>> > - Use of Location header when "denied" to indicate that another
>>> > - Allowing for discovery thru host-meta well known url.
>>> >
>>> > Please, feel free to review and submit any change that is appropriate.
>>>
>>> This sounds awesome, Julien!
>>>
>>> My comments:
>>>
>>> – I'd suggest the following text for §4❡2 (major change is to use
>>> RFC6415 explicitly):
>>>
>>> "In the absence of HTTP Link headers, subscribers SHOULD fall back to
>>> other methods to discover the hub(s) and the canonical URI of the
>>> topic. If the topic is a Atom or RSS feed, the publisher MAY provide
>>> embedded link elements as described in Appendix B of Web Linking
>>> [RFC5988], and the subscriber SHOULD use those links as per Appendix B
>>> of [RFC5988]. Similarly, for HTML pages, the publisher MAY use
>>> embedded link elements as described in Appendix A of Web Linking
>>> [RFC5988], and subscribers SHOULD use those links as per Appendix A of
>>> [RFC5988]. Finally, publishers MAY also use Web Host Metadata
>>> [RFC6415] to include the <Link> element with a rel-value equal to
>>> "hub" as with the other approaches; publishers SHOULD provide the JSON
>>> variant of [RFC6415]. Subscribers SHOULD support this method for
>>> discovery.
>>>
>>> OOPS.
>>>
>>> I started reading the spec at the link you posted and realised that
>>> it's not the updated one at all. I don't know if the above comment
>>> stands, but I'll hold off until the link is updated. :-)
>>>
>>> b.
>>>
>>
>>

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