I forgot to add Wordpress to that list.

On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Julien Genestoux <
[email protected]> wrote:

> All,
>
> I think it's now important to get more feedback from these services who
> implemented their own flavor of PubSubHubbub in the past because the
> previous spec didn't cover their needs.
> In my list, I have:
> - Facebook (not sure who's in charge now, David Recordon can help?)
> - Instagram (Emailed Shayne Sweeney)
> - Github (Emailed Rick Olson)
> - Flickr (Not sure who is in charge)
> - Diaspora (not sure who is in charge...)
>
> I am sure there are many others. Can you help at finding them? Also, if
> you know the people in charge at these companies, feel free to get them to
> participate to that thread. I have already added the folks I know.
>
> Thanks for your precious help... we will soon get there :)
>
> Julien
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Julien Genestoux <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Alkis,
>>
>> You are perfectly right. I just changed that.
>> https://github.com/pubsubhubbub/PubSubHubbub/blob/master/pubsubhubbub-core-0.4.xml#L176
>>
>> Thanks for your input!
>>
>> julien
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Alkis Evlogimenos <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Julien.
>>>
>>> In section 4 (discovery), I believe it is best to avoid explicit
>>> mentioning of Atom or RSS and instead mention them indirectly as XML
>>> formats. The way the section is currently worded, suggests that sitemaps
>>> (for example) can only be discovered through link headers, but this is
>>> problematic since link headers are not always an option for webmasters.
>>>
>>> Current text:
>>>
>>>> In the absence of HTTP Link headers, subscribers MAY fall back to other
>>>> methods to discover the hub(s) and the canonical URI of the topic. If the
>>>> topic is a Atom or RSS feed, it MAY use embedded link elements as described
>>>> in Appendix B of Web Linking [RFC5988]. Similarly, for HTML pages, it MAY
>>>> use embedded link elements as described in Appendix A of Web Linking
>>>> [RFC5988]. Finally, publishers MAY also use the Well-Known Uniform Resource
>>>> Identifiers [RFC5785] .host-meta to include the <Link> element.
>>>
>>>
>>> Proposal:
>>>
>>>> In the absence of HTTP Link headers, subscribers MAY fall back to other
>>>> methods to discover the hub(s) and the canonical URI of the topic. If the
>>>> topic is an XML based feed, it MAY use embedded link elements as
>>>> described in Appendix B of Web Linking [RFC5988]. Similarly, for HTML
>>>> pages, it MAY use embedded link elements as described in Appendix A of Web
>>>> Linking [RFC5988]. Finally, publishers MAY also use the Well-Known Uniform
>>>> Resource Identifiers [RFC5785] .host-meta to include the <Link> element.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 3, 2012 7:43:18 PM UTC+2, Julien wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Blaine,
>>>> Not sure what you mean, but I had previously updated the file there :
>>>> http://superfeedr-misc.s3.**amazonaws.com/pubsubhubbub-**core-0.4.html<http://superfeedr-misc.s3.amazonaws.com/pubsubhubbub-core-0.4.html>
>>>>
>>>> Feel free to send your changes here, and I'll make sure I reflect them
>>>> there :)
>>>>
>>>> Ju
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Blaine Cook <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2 May 2012 14:01, Julien Genestoux <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > All,
>>>>> > I just pushed an updated version of this draft.
>>>>> > It now includes the following (minor) points:
>>>>> > - Comments/Fixes by Walter Groix,
>>>>> > - Symetric "accepted" and "denied" when the hubs validates the
>>>>> subscription
>>>>> > - Use of From header (based on Blaine's feedback)
>>>>> > - Use of Location header when "denied" to indicate that another
>>>>> > - Allowing for discovery thru host-meta well known url.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Please, feel free to review and submit any change that is
>>>>> appropriate.
>>>>>
>>>>> This sounds awesome, Julien!
>>>>>
>>>>> My comments:
>>>>>
>>>>> – I'd suggest the following text for §4❡2 (major change is to use
>>>>> RFC6415 explicitly):
>>>>>
>>>>> "In the absence of HTTP Link headers, subscribers SHOULD fall back to
>>>>> other methods to discover the hub(s) and the canonical URI of the
>>>>> topic. If the topic is a Atom or RSS feed, the publisher MAY provide
>>>>> embedded link elements as described in Appendix B of Web Linking
>>>>> [RFC5988], and the subscriber SHOULD use those links as per Appendix B
>>>>> of [RFC5988]. Similarly, for HTML pages, the publisher MAY use
>>>>> embedded link elements as described in Appendix A of Web Linking
>>>>> [RFC5988], and subscribers SHOULD use those links as per Appendix A of
>>>>> [RFC5988]. Finally, publishers MAY also use Web Host Metadata
>>>>> [RFC6415] to include the <Link> element with a rel-value equal to
>>>>> "hub" as with the other approaches; publishers SHOULD provide the JSON
>>>>> variant of [RFC6415]. Subscribers SHOULD support this method for
>>>>> discovery.
>>>>>
>>>>> OOPS.
>>>>>
>>>>> I started reading the spec at the link you posted and realised that
>>>>> it's not the updated one at all. I don't know if the above comment
>>>>> stands, but I'll hold off until the link is updated. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> b.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
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