On 15/08/13 19:31, Andy Parker wrote:
>     Other efforts to engage people with the new ideas may help, as
>     well.  The ARMs are pretty deeply technical documents, so perhaps
>     these hangouts or office hours can be a place for users to start
>     with a quick summary of the ARM, and then drill down into potential
>     concerns.
> 
> 
> Looking at Eric's calendar it looks like the "ARM Office Hours" are
> 1:30-3:30pm Pacific every Tuesday. Is that a good time? Should we open
> them up to more general office hours? Maybe have one of the devs
> available at the same time to talk about anything?

It might be useful to run a dedicated hangout session, invite the ARM
author to outline the proposal and discuss it that way too.  If
recorded, this also becomes a good development resource in the future.

I also like the idea you suggested in an earlier message to have a
weekly general development hangout.  The only trouble with these is
ensuring the result is transparent, so if decisions are made then
they're recorded on redmine tickets or in PR comments.

> We've also been making an effort to spend more time in #puppet-dev
> recently, which seems to be resulting in a lot more information making
> it out.

I've noticed this and I really appreciate it - thank you.  Even if some
of us aren't engaged in the conversation, we're soaking it up.

-- 
Dominic Cleal
Red Hat Engineering

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