--On Monday, April 10, 2000, 10:01 AM -0400 "Jochen F. Rick"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

>>      {}--people confuse them for ()
> 
> Weird.

It's bloody driving me *crazy*. :)

>>      - as the "unordered list" leading character, a lot of people like
>>        to sign stuff with two dashes leading (e.g, --Bijan Parsia) and
>>        this breaks hard; also
> 
> Yup. We've seen this too. I guess *s would be better, but those are 
> already used.

In my PWS Swiki, I used "+"s (which have the advantage of being another char
Lynx actually uses; I'd favor using "+"s).

>>      _____ as <hr>, I find it hard to type, hard to read and navigate
>>        around, and tend to have to go back and replace my -----s; My
>>        students (who aren't habituated to -----) seem to have similar
>>        difficulties.
> 
> In my formatter, you only need one _. Habituated to ---- is no excuse.

One's even worse. What I like about  ------------- is that it's a divider
that people actually use in email and even in code. *No one* uses _ or ____
;)

>>      ** as link delimiters, but that's been longstanding ;)
> 
> Super agreed.
> 
>>      [] for link formation; this is standard in WikiWorks wikis, and
>>         and it seems to work rather well. I'd love to use it for
>>         footnote type comments as well.
> 
> Agreed. I would have use [] in the syntax, but we needed backwards 
> compatibility to **, so no deal.

Hmm. But should we *promlogate* the ** in "Other" swikis? Since [] is
standard in WikiWorks wikis, I think it has a general chance of acceptance.
Evenutally, we could even convert the Squeak Swiki (as we...er...*you* did
from InterCapped).

> I think we are all somewhat agree on what the right syntax should be. I 
> just don't know if it is worth switching.

Switching extant big sites maybe not; switching the default for new sites,
maybe.

Or, at least, making it really easy to switch.

> I have been loosely working on 
> a syntax for my personal swiki project. I think it is coming out okay. 

I'm interested!

It might be fun, if Squeak end Atlanta happens, to troll around for syntaxes
and provide formatters for them, e.g., Classic WikiWikiWeb, WikiWorks,
Setext, SDF, etc.

> I'm putting it on the backburner, because I need to get some work done on 
> Beta 10. Right now I have so much planned for Beta 10, you will probably 
> not recognize it.

Oh. Dear. That should be interesting!

You may drive me to come out to Atlanta and peek over your sholder yet!
(This ESP thing is getting to be a drag :))

Cheers,
Bijan.

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