[checking my watch]   It's not April 1st so this must be true.
Reminds me of ZDjangoGears and the joke that ultimately became Parrot.
 This is great news for Python web interpoerability!  Pylons users
will benefit from having access to a TG-style dispatcher and
decorators for validation, JSON, etc., without having to make a
wholesale choice between one framework or the other.  I do think
Django is on a dead-end road with its "not invented here" structure,
and eventually it will have to become more interoperable and
component-sharing somehow.  But that's up to the Django developers to
decide.

Mark and John, the two things I'm most concerned about are the
SQLAlchemy and templating interfaces, both of which are in flux in
Pylons.    I just want to make sure we're on the same page as far as
their direction goes.  Have you seen my work on SAContext and
Smorgasbord, and do they look like something TG can build upon?  What
compatibility issues do you see, and how much compatibility with TG 1
are you willing to break?

SAContext has been performing well and I think it's close to
stability.  It hasn't been officially accepted into Pylons yet but
there's consensus that pylons.templating is inadequate and I haven't
seen any other proposal.  It's proven trivial to drop SAContext into
an existing Pylons application (one variable definition and two
search-and-replaces) so I expect the same will be true for TG
applications.  I'm not sure whether the module will be called
pylons.database or pylons.database.sqlalchemy or something like that,
but that'll be just a matter of changing imports.

Templating is a bigger issue so I'll start a separate thread for that.

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Mike Orr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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