On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 9:35 AM, Gavin E. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  SO HERE'S MY QUESTION:  Is there any other MVC, in any language, which
>  divides their MVC into more unique/swap-able pieces than Pylons?  I
>  see the future of web-based apps based on these interchangable 3rd
>  party components.

Pylons is just a glue of user-friendliness on top of Paste.  The only
code native to Pylons is that which does not adequately exist in
lower-level projects.  I challenge you to find what in Pylons *could*
be broken up into smaller pirces.

WebOb was recently created as a framework-neutral request/response
object.  If it becomes widely used outside Pylons, it will bring
another level of interoperability on top of that which WSGI provides.

As for a similar product outside Python, not that I've seen.  Python
has attracted a large number of people who like to tinker with web
frameworks, and thus has a large number of web frameworks.  These
framework tinkerers have an allergy against other people's monolithic
frameworks.  So WSGI was brought in to rectify the situation.  If we
can't bring the number of frameworks down to one, let's at least make
them more interoperable.

Perl, Ruby, Java, and PHP went a different route.  A few people
created a framework in each of those languages, and most users just
used it rather than writing their own framework.  This has been
attributed to how easy it is to build a framework in Python.  If you
look through the Paste docs, it even tells you how to make your own
personal framework. :)

If you're looking for something to do, you might want to look for
shortcomings in Pylons' component/interoperability model and suggest
improvements.

-- 
Mike Orr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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