On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 10:09 -0700, Tom Longson (nym) wrote: > I think the relative number of django apps in the wild vs pylons apps > is a good indicator of how "easy" it is to get something launched. Not > that I don't <3 pylons, but django's developer base speaks for itself. > Either that, or pylons needs a marketing campaign with a pony or > something.
Well, it speaks to ease of entry, which is not the same thing as flexibility. In any field ease-of-entry will produce the most users, but does not mean it's necessarily appropriate for all users. Pylons is most definitely more expert oriented than Django, and more appropriate for cases where you expect that you will be making your own decisions about which libraries to use or heavily customizing components. iain > > Cheers, > Tom Longson (nym) > ------------------------------ > http://tomlongson.com > > > > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:17 AM, afrotypa<[email protected]> wrote: > > > > What are the specifics? In what aspects is it easier to develop in > > Django?. I havent ever used Django, but I heard that while Django apps > > may be easier to develop (if minimal subsequent customization of > > boilerplate is required), it may be harder on the outset to customize > > Django apps. Is a Django app now more amenable to customization than > > before?. > > > > Pylons apps on the other hand (from my experience) require a bit of a > > learning curve to get started, however there is a lot of inherent > > flexibility in how you can customize your pylons app. > > > > There are many discussions on this subject. Here is one of them :- > > > > http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/88zyd/django_or_pylons_which_should_i_go_for/ > > > > On Jul 15, 5:44 pm, "Tom Longson (nym)" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I know people here won't like me saying this, but I recommend looking > >> at Django. If you have real heavy lifting on ORM, it's not as good, > >> but for 98% of the time Django is easier to develop in than Pylons. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Tom Longson (nym) > >> ------------------------------http://tomlongson.com > >> > >> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 2:09 PM, DavidG<[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> > Hmmmm. Anyone? > >> > >> > On Jul 14, 11:55 am, DavidG <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Hi, > >> > >> >> I am in the midst of developing a "fairly simple" application site, > >> >> but where traffic in the real world might be in the "moderate" range > >> >> (not low, but not a mega site). > >> > >> >> I have been using python for years, and developed several successful > >> >> low-traffic sites with it, using various python web tools from my own, > >> >> to myghty, mod_python, pylons...I certainly enjoy the programming > >> >> aspect of python, but when you want to get a site up and reliably > >> >> running and scaled (and find people to maintain it), perhaps other > >> >> factors besides the "language" are more important. > >> > >> >> Question: is pylons ready for prime time? If one were to develop a > >> >> moderate-volume, solid site, is python with pylons the "best" thing to > >> >> use? How would a pylons site stack up against sites made with php, > >> >> rails, java? (btw, I anticipate deploying using Apache and the paste > >> >> server via reverse-proxy). > >> > >> >> Here are things to consider: > >> > >> >> 1. ease/speed of programming > >> >> 2. ease of testing > >> >> 3. scalability > >> >> 4. reliability > >> >> 5. maintainability > >> >> 6. flexibility > >> >> 7. availability of good libraries > >> > >> >> I realize these questions have been asked before, but having my > >> >> initial "alpha" nearly finished in pylons, doubts are setting in as to > >> >> how deployable and scalable in the *real world* this system might be. > >> >> I know that *a lot* of sites (especially large ones) use php (which, > >> >> as a language, I am less then crazy about). And various java > >> >> frameworks (but java is so much work!). And rails? Well, there seems > >> >> to be a bit of a controversy as to its performance, flexibility and > >> >> scalability. > >> > >> >> Interested in any thoughts folks might have. Thanks. > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pylons-discuss" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
