Taking Ben's suggestion, I just went ahead created a new thread.

Mike Orr said:
"""
I have started a Talking Points wiki page to gather the essential
points.  Please add anything that's missing.

http://wiki.pylonshq.com/display/pylonscommunity/Talking+Points
"""

Thanks Mike, what do you and the other core team propose we do from here
with this starting point? It is probably the area where I can most
helpfully contribute to Pylons, as I've done a fair bit of
sales/marketing stuff and as I mentioned, I feel I have a real vested
interest in making sure that clients feel good about the future
viability of Pylons ( and Repoze, Pypes, etc ). 

As cheesy as it sounds ( and we don't have to call it that ), I think we
need a clear "Pylons Vision Statement". The purpose and future goals of
Pylons distilled into a few very clear sentences that help separate it
from competition, but in a realistic and accurate manner. IMHO, I
believe this has been one the main problems for TG, no real clear vision
on what the framework was trying to provide and for whom. Some wanted it
to be a django-competitor, others something different, and that has been
an elephant in the room for too long now.

iain





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